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  • RichiesJimny
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27 Nov 2013 20:24 #93486 by RichiesJimny
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I've got es1000's they are fine for my needs I've also got rhinoray rear shock spacers and have no problems with the rear shocks rubbing.

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27 Nov 2013 21:01 #93496 by bluejimny
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both procomp and rough country are american shocks designed for the american market,

procomp have a range of es1000 3000 and 9000

Rough country had a range of H8000 and N9000 (now merged to N20)

procomp es1000 are classed as stock shock replacements for american spec 4x4's so are the softest riding compaired to the rest as they are designed to be a stock replacement shock and more forgiving for general road and offroad use

but this ES1000 is still stiffer than the jimny shock due to the size generally of 4x4 in the states

ES3000 are similar to H8000 and N9000 similar to ES9000

now rough country have merged them into 1 shock the N20 gas charged shock

the N20's from rough country are now specifically valved for particular vehicles so will give a great ride on the vehicle they are designed for, luckily a few of the N20 shocks are thin enough to fit a jimny hence they are available to buy, but i dont know what model of american 4x4 they were originally designed for.

the procomp range is the same damping rates throughout the different lengths
the Rough Country shocks, one shock 1" longer than the last one could be a different damping rate as they are valved to suit an actual model

hope this makes sense

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27 Nov 2013 21:19 #93498 by jonesyba420
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Yea i get what your saying, does anyone know what 4x4 these shocks were originaly designed for?

So would the es1000 be a more suitable shock for a more softcore offroader than the n2.0? I dont want it to be a rock solid ride as its my daily driver and not really planning on any really hardcore offroading, mostly road use and green laning.

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27 Nov 2013 22:17 #93511 by TomDK
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jonesyba420 wrote: Yea i get what your saying, does anyone know what 4x4 these shocks were originaly designed for?

So would the es1000 be a more suitable shock for a more softcore offroader than the n2.0? I dont want it to be a rock solid ride as its my daily driver and not really planning on any really hardcore offroading, mostly road use and green laning.


Look here:'www.roughcountry.com/shockseries/ntwo/?view=fitment

Don't know what you want the information for.
The N2.0 may seem like a very firm shock. But I don't find it too firm. I am now able to go over speedbumps without letting go of the throttle. That was not possible before, when I had the OME shocks. They would bottom out, and generally a poor ride.

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27 Nov 2013 22:27 #93513 by bluejimny
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2-3" front = 94-01 dodge ram pickup
2-3" rear = 83-97 ford ranger

4-5" front = 94-01 dodge ram pickup
4-5" rear = jeep yj wrangler / mazda pickup


thats the few ive just searched its seems the shocks fit around 3 model each

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27 Nov 2013 22:42 #93519 by jonesyba420
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So the n2.0 that fits the jimny was originaly designed for a truck that probably weighs twice as much!?could this have something to do with why its so firm?

I agree with you about stock suspension the ride is pretty shocking even on road, have to slow down for speed bumps feels jolty as hell! Offroad you feel every stone.

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27 Nov 2013 23:00 #93528 by Wiltec17
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I'm running es3000, they're like feckin coilovers, I hit a speed bump when I first got it on the road and damn near took off! But I have no comparison, I just know they're stiffer than I expected. It handles well on the road as far as the suspension goes, not to much body roll, lots of feedback, tyres let it down.
Admittedly the shocks are designed for a car with a bit of weight and mine hasn't got winch or cage or anything fitted so might change the characteristics.
They are a lot thicker than standard, would have rubbed on the rear if I didn't fit relocators, off road they soak up everything quite nicely. Overall happy bunny.

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27 Nov 2013 23:08 - 27 Nov 2013 23:14 #93533 by TomDK
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jonesyba420 wrote: So the n2.0 that fits the jimny was originaly designed for a truck that probably weighs twice as much!?could this have something to do with why its so firm?

I agree with you about stock suspension the ride is pretty shocking even on road, have to slow down for speed bumps feels jolty as hell! Offroad you feel every stone.


That's the thing with all budget shocks for the Jimny. The ES1000 shocks are also for heavy US trucks.
If you want it custom made for the Jimny, then it's gonna cost.

ES3000 are nothing like coilovers.
At least not coilovers for 4x4 racing :)

These are probably some of the better shocks made particularly for the Jimny. More expensive than Pro Comp and Rough Country, and only comes in standard length.
www.dcperformance.co.uk/uprated/koni-hea...rs/suzuki/jimny.html

Or these, perhaps even better:
www.dcperformance.co.uk/uprated/bilstein...er/suzuki/jimny.html
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27 Nov 2013 23:23 #93541 by Wiltec17
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TomDK wrote: ES3000 are nothing like coilovers.
At least not coilovers for 4x4 racing :)



I ment they were stiffer than I expected, might have been a slight exaggeration :P I thought it was going to be really soft and wallow but surprised me how stiff it rides.

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27 Nov 2013 23:35 #93543 by jonesyba420
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So I think my initial idea has gone out the window from whats been said so a 2" lift is the answer.

So regarding shocks it basicaly boils down to cost as both the es1000 and n2.0 seem to be firmer but ride better from whats been said, no one has come along and said "X is better for your requirements" so budget will be the deciding factor.

Although the silver and red shock body and red gaiter on the n2.0 would probably "look" nice on my silver jim B)

and I always say you get what you pay for and I believe the n2.0 are slightly more money so stands to reason are a better product.

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28 Nov 2013 08:01 #93568 by Reloaded
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As I've said, for me the ride quality of the black Jimny is very good on road and off, I've got N2.0 shocks fitted so wouldn't / couldn't recommend anything else for now - they are however only part of the suspension set up - so stick em on a truck with a different set up you may get a different result. Sometimes you can have too much to think :side: and you just have to make a move. No one seems to knock the RCs, but then again what's good for some folk may not be good for all.

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28 Nov 2013 08:59 #93575 by jonesyba420
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I know what you mean about over evaluating things!

I was just wondering what sways peoples decision between the pro comps and rough countrys? Why do people choose one over the other?

do you have the n2.0 on your blue one mick?got any pics on its 2" lift for me?

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