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Re: Wheel spacers - Yes/No ?

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20 Jun 2011 20:26 #18067 by Halford
I'd appreciate your feedback :unsure:

Is it worth getting wheel spacers on my current 205/70R15's (soon to be 205/75R15).

I understand that aside from making it look good, the added stability afforded by the extra 64mm stance is worthwhile on the road.

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20 Jun 2011 22:50 #18072 by kevant
Replied by kevant on topic Re: Wheel spacers - Yes/No ?
its also worthwhile offroad i fitted some quality wheel spacers after receiving some good advice off Martin on here, never looked back but make sure you extend the arches some way to cover the tyres just to keep plod happy

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21 Jun 2011 02:30 - 21 Jun 2011 02:31 #18074 by kirkynut
You may not need to extend the arches, it just depends if the tread is outside the arch. Are you running the same size Kevant? It might be a suck it and see exercise.

There are mixed opinions on whether to use the extended stud type or the billet type of spacer. I personally would only ever use the billet type on safety grounds on the road. Others will argue the opposite but I fail to understand why.

As to whether you should use them, if you ask Rhino Ray he will always say yes, as you should go wider to compensate for the instability you have created by going higher. He would recommend higher offset wheels though. Which of course he happens to sell, so no surprises there.

I have used them when I had the wrong GV 16" steels but not since. I've not used them since as they make servicing the rear brakes, such as washing the mud out a bit of hard work. It's like having a second set of wheels to remove at the end of a long day of offroading when washing the car off when I'd rather be drinking beer in the summer or a hot drink having just washed a car in -1 deg!

Having said that, I've been holding back from driving through quagmires now due to the extended maintenance on all of the car. I ended up spending more time under it than in it! For that reason I've not done the rear disc conversion I planned and have all the parts to do. Therefore I have considered using them again.

My tyres are much wider than standard though, so my car is wider to an extent.

I think you should try them and see for yourself.

Here endeth another long Kirky post. I still can't do concise!

Kirkynut

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Last edit: 21 Jun 2011 02:31 by kirkynut.

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21 Jun 2011 07:47 #18080 by v8dougie
Replied by v8dougie on topic Re: Wheel spacers - Yes/No ?

kirkynut wrote: There are mixed opinions on whether to use the extended stud type or the billet type of spacer. I personally would only ever use the billet type on safety grounds on the road. Others will argue the opposite but I fail to understand why.
Kirkynut


Hi,

Could you help me out with the two different types of spacer, bit confused! Any pics? I am aware you can get spacers which are simply a disc of metal of a specific thickness, which have holes in the correct places for the original wheel studs to go through, or you can get the fancy ones which have new studs in them (if that makes sense!)

Cheers

Phil

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21 Jun 2011 10:04 - 21 Jun 2011 10:07 #18085 by meanbgreen
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I added 2" spacers to my Jimny and it was like nite and day handling wise. Offroad wise makes a dif to cause the wider track.
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21 Jun 2011 10:07 #18086 by meanbgreen

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21 Jun 2011 11:04 #18089 by VAXXi
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I have the same kind of spacers as the ones listed above (with their own studs):

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I can't see how you'd use the other kind of spacers (with holes only), as you will need to replace the factory studs with longer ones and that doesn't sound too good strength-wise. Again, the spacers need to be quality ones, as an imbalanced one can create havoc to the Jimny's sensitive suspension. You can see how it looks here (left without spacer, right with spacer):

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Can't really comment on differences in driving behaviour, as they were mounted already on the car when I bought it. It looks much cooler though, and if you splash a puddle you're guaranted to get water through the window :P

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21 Jun 2011 11:04 - 21 Jun 2011 11:05 #18090 by mlines
Replied by mlines on topic Re: Wheel spacers - Yes/No ?
Dave over at Bits4Vits does both types.

The Billet Style - www.bits4vits.co.uk/store/vitara-/-x90/w...-spec-/prod_237.html

The stud extender style - www.bits4vits.co.uk/store/vitara-/-x90/w...t-of-4/prod_130.html

As you can see, the billet style are more expensive although I have Spidertrax Billet one which are mid-priced.

www.spidertrax.com/Suzuki-5-x-5-1-2-Whee...s?sc=2&category=9975

Martin

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21 Jun 2011 12:12 #18093 by VAXXi
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Ah, you mean the billet style means the studs are one with the spacer, while on the other type the studs can be moved around ?

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21 Jun 2011 12:46 #18094 by Halford
Thanks guys for a great response :)

Yes I do prefer the billet style, but can't justify such expense (maybe later), I'm sure I read somewhere that Dave (Bits4Vits) wrote he'd supplied over 800 sets of the stud extender style with no complaints and as I won't be putting much stress on the Jimny I think they should be OK. So I've placed an order on Bits4Vits ...... :woohoo:

Kirkynut wrote

It's like having a second set of wheels to remove at the end of a long day of offroading when washing the car off when I'd rather be drinking beer

:lol:

VAXXi wrote

It looks much cooler though, and if you splash a puddle you're guaranteed to get water through the window

- will see if I can catch the wife out - :evil: :evil: :evil:

will give some feedback when fitted - want to fit them prior to getting the new tyres so I can directly credit them with any "change" in handling/steering

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21 Jun 2011 14:44 #18097 by Keefe
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I bought some of those 'cheaper' one for my Delica.
Took one out the box, put it back in the box.
2 days later, a mate of mine fitted them to his Delica. I did tell him not to.
3 weeks later he was seen running along the A61 after his rear n/s wheel that had overtaken him!
He soon took the other 3 off.

I'm not saying they are rubbish, buy some and see for yourself, feel the quality etc, and decide for yourself.
My mate never took the issue up with the seller/manufacturer 'cause he unfortunately died not long after.

Go for the billet ones.

K :)

I'm not trying to start an argument off about them, or open a discussion about them, how they are made, attached, if my mate fitted them wrongly or anything.
I'm not interested, I just know which ones I would go for if I didn't have the greater offset wheels fitted to Jim. In my opinion the better way of doing it.
That just comes from years ago in the mini (proper one, not the germanic rubbish they call a mini now) and the escort mk1 era of 'growling' monthly wheel bearing changes etc. ;) :laugh:

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21 Jun 2011 15:29 #18099 by bluejimny
Replied by bluejimny on topic Re: Wheel spacers - Yes/No ?
well as what was mentioned before, with B4V selling over 800 sets and no troubles i can believe that as ive sold over 200 sets of cast types and same again never had any problems from people and ive sold over 200 sets for big 4x4's eg L200 Hilux etc and same again never had any problems, either there fine or people just dont tell me when theres a problem?

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