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Spare wheel bike rack?

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20 Jan 2021 10:37 #231978 by bpnwainwright
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Hi all,

I've fitted a Peruzzo Brennero 2 bike spare wheel rack to my 2020 Jimny without really considering how much weight the spare wheel mount/door hinges will take. I know it won't be as strong as a proper towbar rack but I wanted a quick fix that I can take on and off easily. Does anyone have any experience with this? I've tried it out with one bike, total weight approx. 20kg (see attached photo of Jimny dwarfed by bike) without problems but I didn't travel far. Ideally I'd want to be able to put two bikes on (30kg or so) and not worry I'm going to tear the rear wheel off when I hit a bump...

Thanks for your help!

Ben
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20 Jan 2021 12:39 #231985 by Roger Fairclough
Some years ago on the A74 in Scotland I saw the remnants of two bikes and the rear door mounted rack that had broken away from a Volvo estate car. That convinced me that this type of mounting is fundamentally flawed . You are better off with a tow ball mounted unit.

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20 Jan 2021 13:14 #231986 by saxj
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bpnwainwright wrote: Hi all,

I've fitted a Peruzzo Brennero 2 bike spare wheel rack to my 2020 Jimny without really considering how much weight the spare wheel mount/door hinges will take. I know it won't be as strong as a proper towbar rack but I wanted a quick fix that I can take on and off easily. Does anyone have any experience with this? I've tried it out with one bike, total weight approx. 20kg (see attached photo of Jimny dwarfed by bike) without problems but I didn't travel far. Ideally I'd want to be able to put two bikes on (30kg or so) and not worry I'm going to tear the rear wheel off when I hit a bump...

Thanks for your help!

Ben

I have a tyre mounted rack on my Gen 4 and haven't experienced any issues, but don't use it much, also my bike is very light.  I know that the Gen 3's had an issue with the door buckling when using a tyre mounted carrier, but the Gen 4's rear door seems to be better constructed.
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20 Jan 2021 13:15 #231987 by saxj
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Roger Fairclough wrote: Some years ago on the A74 in Scotland I saw the remnants of two bikes and the rear door mounted rack that had broken away from a Volvo estate car. That convinced me that this type of mounting is fundamentally flawed . You are better off with a tow ball mounted unit.

Roger

Tow-ball mounted is definitely a better option.

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20 Jan 2021 18:22 #231997 by Busta
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I regularly strap my 13kg touring bike directly to the spare wheel. It is very secure but you feel the weight when you open and close the door. i wouldn't lexpect it to take the weight of 2 bikes though, and using anything that extended the weight futher back will massively increase the load on the door.

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20 Jan 2021 18:31 #232001 by Lambert
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I'd be more worried about the side projections outside the Jimny and ripping the whole assembly off on a hedge or lamppost or wagon etc.

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20 Jan 2021 19:25 #232003 by RumbleAndSway
I agree with Lambert - long wheelbase mountain bikes protrude whatever you use.

Can recommend the Buzz Rack Scorpion for those with a tow hitch www.roofbox.co.uk/scripts/rbvehsel4_tab....PdG1gLxoCCGIQAvD_BwE

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20 Jan 2021 20:38 - 20 Jan 2021 20:40 #232010 by Scimike
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Just playing devils advocate here, but vehicle and towbar manufacturer specifications usually have a maximum of permissable nose weight. Depending upon who and what, it's in the range of 45 to 75kg, nominally 50kg.
SO does anyone pay any attention to this? 
I believe it is vehicle stability related rather than towbar failure.
A three bike towbar mounted carrier and 3 bikes is likely to be over or close to the limit. Often looked at the motorbike versions, but pushing stability and the limit too much in my opinion.
Just saying they are not limitless, but at least you have an official figure which is more than you will find for the rear door on the Jimny



 

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20 Jan 2021 21:15 - 21 Jan 2021 08:32 #232012 by GeorgeC
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Some time back there was posted some photos of a bike rack that went into the towbar's 50x50mm receiver.  
This rack carried the bicycles vertically, with the rear wheel located in the rack frame and the front wheel pointing up.
I will try to search later in the day for the post. 
Edit: My serch for "bike" did not locate the desired post.  It may have been in a Aus-Jimny-Facebook Page.  However, the question has been asked and covered may times in the past and repeating the search for "bike" will produce satisfactory results! 
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22 Jan 2021 09:22 #232053 by bpnwainwright
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Thanks everyone, really useful comments. I guess I'll have to bite the bullet at some point and get a towbar...

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22 Jan 2021 09:55 #232055 by Roger Fairclough
Bens picture of his set up does look a little worrying at first but in reality his wheels are only a little further out than his mirrors. Also as the driver is aware that the wheels do protrude, they should take extra care when driving or manoeuvring.
A possible alternative would be to remove the front wheel and position the rack, if possible ,to move the bike into a better position.

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22 Jan 2021 10:04 #232056 by Roger Fairclough
Just another thought but valid. Check with your insurance broker. When I took our bikes to France the broker initially said the bikes had to be chained to the rack, fair enough, and the car, the LandCruiser had to be chained to a lamp post or similar. When I pointed out that the L C weighed 2 tons they saw the silliness and scrapped that idea.

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