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just lifted the jimny but i have 3 issues?????

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25 Feb 2009 16:49 #402 by jamesey
i have 2 issues , ive fitted the 3" kap springs and fitted rhino rays cranked radius arms but now the rear steering arm rubs the radius arms , how do i get over this , also the front panhard bolt that goes into the threadded part of the front axel has rounded and i cant tighten the front passenger side up??
and just 1 more thing will i need a front prop shaft extension as the toothed bit on the front rubber is showing?????:angry:

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25 Feb 2009 20:29 #406 by kirkynut
Right then...

I have KAP 3 inch lifting springs and standard radius arms and standard radius arm bushes. With this set up I have about 2 inches between the steering rod and the radius arms on both sides.

I'm guessing you have only bought the front radius arms as that is all that's needed to correct the steering geometry from the castor change of the lift. As the only difference between yours and mine is the radius arms, I would be thinking that the issue lies with them, however, Rhino Ray knows what he's doing and I wouldn't of thought you'd have issue with his kit. They can only be fitted one way too.

I know that Rhino Ray's arms are heat treated for hardness though, so if you have bought the rear ones too for this reason, have you fitted them to the front by mistake??? Stupid question I know but you never know. I have done things like that many a time!!!

With respect to the rounded off bolt, you need a set of these -

www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/detai...-bolt-grip-set/path/

Then once you've got the offending little blighter off you can take it to a fasteners and ask for a replacement, just to find out they can't do it as it's some odd Japanese thread and have to get one from Suzuki for far more than a bolt can ever be worth. - or the fasteners might come up trumps for 50p.

With respect tot he propshaft extention, you don't need one but the join in the the two parts of your prop should be protected by a rubber boot, only available from Suzuki for far too much money. You don't want to go off road without it though or it'll soon clog up the teeth with abrasive mud and cause plenty of unnecessary wear.

If you still can't figure out the steering bar and radius arms clashing, give Rhino Ray a call as the springs can't be causing it or post some piccies on here for us to have a gander at.

Kirkynut

The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.

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26 Feb 2009 08:59 - 27 Feb 2009 08:52 #411 by jamesey
just got off the phone with darren at kap and he said that the front radius arms are wrong , the arms were from rhino rays and i need to take them off , :-> thats another £150 waisted , he said there angled too much and i need to put the standard arms back on and stregthen them and just put some proper bushes in , also the threadded bolt hole in the axel he said i need to chop it out :shock:and weld another in
this is the offending bolt that the hole is threadded???:angry:




the spring looks pretty straght for a 3" lift
Last edit: 27 Feb 2009 08:52 by mlines.

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26 Feb 2009 13:46 #412 by kirkynut
Oh dear, it does look like there is a problem with the arms, have you spoken to Rhino Ray about it as he produced the arms? You shouldn't have to lose out any money over it.

I have a set of the castor correction radius arm bushes that Darren is talking about using in the standard arms but have not yet fitted them and 'm in no rush to as it drives fine without them. One day I'll get round to it though. Perhaps one nice hot sunny day with a nice cold glass of coke and ice on the side!!!

They have to fitted just right as essentially the hole in the tube that goes through the bush is offset and needs to be fitted with the thinnest side one way to correct the castor that little bit.

With respect to the rounded off bolt, it seems a little much to have to chop that bolt out and weld another in when it coudl be extracted with the tool I have suggested and perhaps a little heat to persuade it, or once the tool has bitten into the bolt head the shocking action of an air gun or electric version of such. I have had the same problem with the bolts that hold the wishbones in place on my old Escort. With the tool and and the electric torque gun they always come out. I've used it on the nuts from the downpipe on our SJ to the manifold and you can imagine how rusted and stuck in they get.

Darren has all the kit though and from his point of view his suggestion may be quicker and simpler, from the DIY view I think my way is.

I still can't understand how Rhino Ray's arms are like they are as he's put alot of time and money into their development. I'm not aware of anyone else on this site with them on to draw from their experiences though.

You can get these arms from Rob Storr - www.worcester-technologies.com/rsmfg/jimny_susp.htm but they are not cheap, however, they will not break either being chrome molly. I don't know what bushes they take either and the cost can rise again with those on top.

I would be inclined to do as Darren says and stick witht he standard arms.

Can Darren get you a rubber boot for the prop off one of his scrappers whilst you're there?

Kirkynut

The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.

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26 Feb 2009 14:41 #415 by kirkynut
Having just had a quick think after writing the above - if that bolt on the panhard rod were to shear you would be stuffed and wouldn't be able to drive it to daren for him to sort it - so perhaps leave it to Darren!

Kirkynut

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27 Feb 2009 08:48 #422 by mlines
There really is something not right with your setup and I am not convinced its the Rhino Ray arms. They are certainly curved up but not to an extent where the arms should rub.

Here is mine....



As you can see, the steering arm is near the diff but a long way from the radius arm and it would have to be one hell of a curve to move it that much

Martin

Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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27 Feb 2009 22:03 #431 by tree fella
Just a thought but ray only does a 2" lift kit, does he do corection arms for3"?????? If these arms are designed to correct a 2" lift then not only may your steering rod rub but your caster angle wont be correct either.I believe this is probably the case cos if you look at your photo your springs are bent indicating your radius arms are too short.

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28 Feb 2009 15:19 #439 by kirkynut
You could be onto something there!!!

A call to Ray is needed me thinks...

Kirkynut

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01 Mar 2009 19:43 #452 by jamesey
ive been told by a jimny man near me that the arms i have are designed for a 2" lift , so does anybody want them??

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02 Mar 2009 12:45 #456 by kirkynut
Does the Jimny man near you make them for 3 inch lifts though and won't Ray give you your money back?

Otherwise I'm sure they'll disappear off Ebay quickly enough - it's just how much for.

Kirkynut

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02 Mar 2009 20:53 #460 by jamesey
ive not asked ray as they have been on my garage floor for over a year and have bits of rust on them , nothing much but ill need to paint them , ill put em on ebay for £120 for the pair , they have all round poly bushes aswell these are £80 ish i think:)

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03 Mar 2009 10:58 #461 by tree fella
are they on ebay now? I may be intersted my no is 07835 02 99 23 do you have just the fronts or the rears as well?

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