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Parkwood Nr. Leeds
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Jimny vs. Defender Off road - which is best?
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30 Mar 2022 15:45 #242588
by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic Jimny vs. Defender Off road - which is best?
A point to mention is the difference in gear ratios. This info. is based on the Gen.4 but in low range the manual has an o/a ratio of 36.23 with the auto coming in at 32.68. This would give greater control both up and down hills.
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30 Mar 2022 16:39 #242589
by Lambert
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I just ran the ratios through the calculator and the 3 auto is about 30feet per minute more than the manual at an idle of 950 rmp which while noticeable is barely 3 car lengths.
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30 Mar 2022 17:32 #242590
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Noticeable, in this scenario has got to be helpful and anything that is helpful should be gratefully accepted.
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30 Mar 2022 17:42 #242591
by lightning
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Well, l've got a Defender TD5 and a Gen 4 Jimny and they are both great off road.
Both have their strengths, the Jimny actually has more tech, my Defender hasn't got the traction control.
Both vehicles have proven their worth, the Jimny only falling down because you have to keep disengaging the 4wd when on solid surfaces.
l see the Gen 4 Jimny as a worthy successor to the original Defender, and a half priced alternative to
the new one.
Both have their strengths, the Jimny actually has more tech, my Defender hasn't got the traction control.
Both vehicles have proven their worth, the Jimny only falling down because you have to keep disengaging the 4wd when on solid surfaces.
l see the Gen 4 Jimny as a worthy successor to the original Defender, and a half priced alternative to
the new one.
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30 Mar 2022 18:00 - 30 Mar 2022 18:04 #242594
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Replied by Scimike on topic Jimny vs. Defender Off road - which is best?
I personally think they are very similar in performance off road, in a "green field" situation. By this I mean a location that's not been carved up by increasing vehicle clearance, it's then predominantly a battle between tyre size and ground clearance. In standard trim, in this world, the larger Land Rover will always have the advantage over the smaller Jimny.
In a "green field" situation they are much the same, one slightly better than the other in certain situations. I don't see disengaging 4x4 between surface's as an issue in the Jimny, it's a button press, and no different to my Series 2 Land Rover. The land rover also has the edge in low box, the Jimny is slightly too quick for some situations, but it's not a big issue, particularly if you favour "full speed ahead" obstacle navigation
In a "green field" situation they are much the same, one slightly better than the other in certain situations. I don't see disengaging 4x4 between surface's as an issue in the Jimny, it's a button press, and no different to my Series 2 Land Rover. The land rover also has the edge in low box, the Jimny is slightly too quick for some situations, but it's not a big issue, particularly if you favour "full speed ahead" obstacle navigation
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30 Mar 2022 18:19 #242595
by Lambert
Like I was saying earlier in any Jimny you are going to be covering the brakes to assist the engine braking whilst also being prepared to get back on the gas to regain wheel speed in the event of loosing traction. Something of a balancing act to be sure and the reason for hill decent control on the new ones, computers being better at that sort of speedy reactions
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Replied by Lambert on topic Jimny vs. Defender Off road - which is best?
Noticeable, in this scenario has got to be helpful and anything that is helpful should be gratefully accepted.
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Like I was saying earlier in any Jimny you are going to be covering the brakes to assist the engine braking whilst also being prepared to get back on the gas to regain wheel speed in the event of loosing traction. Something of a balancing act to be sure and the reason for hill decent control on the new ones, computers being better at that sort of speedy reactions
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30 Mar 2022 19:24 #242596
by Roger Fairclough
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Give anyone the choice, and anyone in this context is some one acquainted with steep down hill sections, and they will pick lower gearing because it gives them better control. and that means lower speed. Hill decent control is for people who don't understand that and HDC cant look ahead and read the track. That's a job for the driver. Suitable gearing gives better control right from the start with less need for use of the brakes.
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30 Mar 2022 19:45 #242599
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Which is why I have my eye on a 5.4 transfer gear set. Unfortunately I also don't have 800 odd quid. But I do have an automatic gearbox which means in every other scenario off road I have an advantage, being smooth power delivery without burning a clutch which in turn takes the edge off needing to buy new gears. After all it's a reasonably accepted proposal for serious off road work that a manual really needs a total reduction of 50:1 or more whereas an automatic needs nowhere near that because of the torque converter. For example a unimog which can get down to 200:1.
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30 Mar 2022 21:54 #242603
by Roger Fairclough
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If your auto is so good as it is, why are you so interested in a 5.4 ratio transfer box? After all, according to your statistics, you don't need them.
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31 Mar 2022 03:22 #242606
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If you remember, I am interested in in fitting oversized tyres to my Jimny which would require a regear to maintain the high range ratio and driveability that happens to give me the the huge reduction in low which is a bonus.
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31 Mar 2022 08:34 #242614
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31 Mar 2022 09:11 #242617
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Into a racecar. Not said anything about not improving it for off road.
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