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King pin still leaking????
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14 Jul 2020 20:57 #225102
by Olliecarr25
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Hi there I have a 2002 Suzuki jimny and the other week I did the king pins and the little seal and I changed the diff oil it was fine at first but after a couple days driving and then being sat about for a few days one side has started to leak again any ideas? Thanks Ollie
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14 Jul 2020 21:34 #225104
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
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HI, t's very easy to damage the seal as you push the half shaft back, could be as simple as this.
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15 Jul 2020 16:22 #225128
by Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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or seal not seated properly, I've had that one before 
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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16 Jul 2020 07:49 #225151
by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic King pin still leaking????
Have you over-filled the swivel with grease? It only needs a smear in the back of the CV joint.
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16 Jul 2020 12:25 #225163
by Olliecarr25
Replied by Olliecarr25 on topic King pin still leaking????
Am I right in thinking it has to be the seal for the diff oil to be in there anyway?
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16 Jul 2020 12:28 #225165
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Yes.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!
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19 Jul 2020 18:42 #225335
by kirkynut
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Replied by kirkynut on topic King pin still leaking????
Last year I replaced the oil seal and kingpin bearings on a family friend's Jimjam and it leaked a couple of months after. To get her through the MOT someone else drained the front diff at my advice and she was told not to select 4wd.
Today I replaced the kingpin bearings again, albeit they were likely ok and the seal but shimmed them with annealed copper washers. I've done this on mine with good results.
The seal was absolutely trashed but I know I put it in properly and square and I didn't damage it putting the shaft in. The wheel bearing seems tight and quiet too.
I'm at a loss as to why the seal lips were so flattened. I'm hoping it will be good for a few years now and with new oil in the diff it can be used in 4wd this winter if required.
Thankfully the 4wd system worked after I had it apart as you have to disturb several seals and pipes from the vacuum system. There were 2 audible clicks and the light was solid, not flashing.
Kirkynut
Today I replaced the kingpin bearings again, albeit they were likely ok and the seal but shimmed them with annealed copper washers. I've done this on mine with good results.
The seal was absolutely trashed but I know I put it in properly and square and I didn't damage it putting the shaft in. The wheel bearing seems tight and quiet too.
I'm at a loss as to why the seal lips were so flattened. I'm hoping it will be good for a few years now and with new oil in the diff it can be used in 4wd this winter if required.
Thankfully the 4wd system worked after I had it apart as you have to disturb several seals and pipes from the vacuum system. There were 2 audible clicks and the light was solid, not flashing.
Kirkynut
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10 Sep 2020 11:29 #228034
by shaggy
Replied by shaggy on topic King pin still leaking????
I've recently done the kingpin bearings/ oil seal/shim/grease job on both sides of my 03 Jimny and passenger side is still leaking.From reading this, I guess I'll have to order a new halfshaft oil seal and be more careful re-installing the halfshaft.
How does too much grease in the swivel cause this issue? Does it cause grease to leak or diff oil as it smells like diff oil is leaking on mine.
It could also be that I haven't brought it to get it's tracking done and wheels balanced after the second kingpin was replaced and that a small wobble in the drive shaft might be compromising the seal.
Also is there a way to know how many shims to use?
How does too much grease in the swivel cause this issue? Does it cause grease to leak or diff oil as it smells like diff oil is leaking on mine.
It could also be that I haven't brought it to get it's tracking done and wheels balanced after the second kingpin was replaced and that a small wobble in the drive shaft might be compromising the seal.
Also is there a way to know how many shims to use?
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10 Sep 2020 11:42 - 10 Sep 2020 11:48 #228035
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Replied by Scimike on topic King pin still leaking????
Hi,
The grease will not cause the issue. You only need enough to coat the Kingpin bearings and inside CV joint, any more is just wasted and a gunky mess.
If it's leaking still it's likely to be diff oil getting past the seal. Damaged seal or grooved shaft (the bit the seal runs on) are possible causes.
You only need shims to achieve the correct swivel load, it's about 3kg (someone please confirm, I can't recall exactly) to get the swivel moving from side to side. It's possible you don't need any with new bearings, mine has none fitted.
The grease will not cause the issue. You only need enough to coat the Kingpin bearings and inside CV joint, any more is just wasted and a gunky mess.
If it's leaking still it's likely to be diff oil getting past the seal. Damaged seal or grooved shaft (the bit the seal runs on) are possible causes.
You only need shims to achieve the correct swivel load, it's about 3kg (someone please confirm, I can't recall exactly) to get the swivel moving from side to side. It's possible you don't need any with new bearings, mine has none fitted.
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Last edit: 10 Sep 2020 11:48 by Scimike.
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10 Sep 2020 13:01 #228038
by HUN
TrailMaster 2" lift kit
Full floating rear axle conversion, JB underbody guards & recovery points
ORE transfer box HD brackets
T-Max split charge system
X-Shock Dakar ceramic clutch kit & roof rack
Flo-Flex castor polybushes
Kumho KL71 tyres
AVM manual hubs
ORA radius arm guards
Push-fit breathers
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Service bulletin says the maximum swivel load is 4.6kg (45Nm) or less.Scimike wrote: Hi,
The grease will not cause the issue. You only need enough to coat the Kingpin bearings and inside CV joint, any more is just wasted and a gunky mess.
If it's leaking still it's likely to be diff oil getting past the seal. Damaged seal or grooved shaft (the bit the seal runs on) are possible causes.
You only need shims to achieve the correct swivel load, it's about 3kg (someone please confirm, I can't recall exactly) to get the swivel moving from side to side. It's possible you don't need any with new bearings, mine has none fitted.
TrailMaster 2" lift kit
Full floating rear axle conversion, JB underbody guards & recovery points
ORE transfer box HD brackets
T-Max split charge system
X-Shock Dakar ceramic clutch kit & roof rack
Flo-Flex castor polybushes
Kumho KL71 tyres
AVM manual hubs
ORA radius arm guards
Push-fit breathers
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10 Sep 2020 13:34 #228040
by mlines
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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I have tried on many occasions to measure the starting load on the swivels when fitting with shims.
In the end I resorted to the "Goldilocks" process.
This involves simply swiveling it by my finger tips and seeing how it felt - Too Hard > less shims Too Soft > more shims Just Right = success.
Its hard to describe this but you can literally feel it in your fingers and sense that it is just right
In the end I resorted to the "Goldilocks" process.
This involves simply swiveling it by my finger tips and seeing how it felt - Too Hard > less shims Too Soft > more shims Just Right = success.
Its hard to describe this but you can literally feel it in your fingers and sense that it is just right
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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10 Sep 2020 14:08 #228042
by mic888
Replied by mic888 on topic King pin still leaking????
Had a similar issue on my last jimny only way i could stop it from leaking was to fit a genuine suzuki seal and that was on the long shaft side.
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