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660cc Jimny emissions
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12 Jul 2020 10:02 #224879
by Foxtrot
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The 1500cc Jimny is no longer available to order in Europe, it would be interesting to know what the CO2 emissions are for the 660cc three pot engine is for the Japanese Kie market. Maybe they could use that unit in a European spec Jimny for the interim, just a thought?
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12 Jul 2020 10:19 #224882
by 300bhpton
Replied by 300bhpton on topic 660cc Jimny emissions
I honestly believe there is more going on than co2 emissions. I suspect it is more of an excuse. Since 1999 2018 and 2019 have been the lowest Jimmy sales in Europe. Clearly this isn’t down to demand. But more a lack of supply. I think Suzuki would rather be selling them in other markets.
Not saying they wouldn’t have to address the co2. But lots and lots of other vehicles produce higher emissions. And it isn’t as if Suzuki’s model range is full of big V8’s and turbocharged cars. So having the Jimny as one of their highest co2 vehicles would be unlikely to be a real problem.
I do find it odd they didn’t fit their mild hybrid tech to the Jimny. All it is is an alternator that is also a motor and a small battery. Nothing fancy and you’d never know it was there. Unless their is a truth that such systems make very little real world impact.
As for the JDM one. I suspect it would be woefully underpowered. And I have a hunch it probably isn’t much different on the co2’s.
Not saying they wouldn’t have to address the co2. But lots and lots of other vehicles produce higher emissions. And it isn’t as if Suzuki’s model range is full of big V8’s and turbocharged cars. So having the Jimny as one of their highest co2 vehicles would be unlikely to be a real problem.
I do find it odd they didn’t fit their mild hybrid tech to the Jimny. All it is is an alternator that is also a motor and a small battery. Nothing fancy and you’d never know it was there. Unless their is a truth that such systems make very little real world impact.
As for the JDM one. I suspect it would be woefully underpowered. And I have a hunch it probably isn’t much different on the co2’s.
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12 Jul 2020 10:21 #224883
by CC Baxter
Replied by CC Baxter on topic 660cc Jimny emissions
I like the idea of Kei cars but I suspect their future (in Europe at least) is limited. Like it or not the future is electric with hybrids a short term stop- gap. The Japanese have largely avoided officially sending Kei cars to Europe and I don't see this changing. Kei cars don't meet euro crash test requirements and would probably not be worth the investment to a small company like Suzuki. Shame really. Chris
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12 Jul 2020 10:35 #224884
by Foxtrot
Replied by Foxtrot on topic 660cc Jimny emissions
I didn't understand why the Jimny was pulled emitting 154g/km and the new Defender spits out 230g/km. Apparently the lighter the car's in the company portfolio the stricter the EU emissions apply?
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12 Jul 2020 10:38 - 12 Jul 2020 10:50 #224885
by 300bhpton
Replied by 300bhpton on topic 660cc Jimny emissions
For the record. An MX-5 produces very similar co2 to the Jimny. And a Toyota GT86 quite a bit more. They are also vehicles with a similar kerb weight to the Jimny.
As for EV. Maybe. But we don’t have and are unlikely to ever have an infrastructure to support them. I personally don’t see them as the future. Too many major milestones to overcome.
I can see electric drive being the future. But still with some kind on board power generation.
As for EV. Maybe. But we don’t have and are unlikely to ever have an infrastructure to support them. I personally don’t see them as the future. Too many major milestones to overcome.
I can see electric drive being the future. But still with some kind on board power generation.
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12 Jul 2020 10:58 #224886
by Foxtrot
Replied by Foxtrot on topic 660cc Jimny emissions
I don't believe that plugin battery power is the long term answer, it is has too many shortcomings and it will be just a stepping stone. However I do think that hydrogen/electric is more practical and will eventually become the automotive choice. This article by Ineos Fuel group is very interesting. It also looks like the Grenadier 4x4 will be powered by hydrogen in the future.
www.ineos.com/inch-magazine/articles/iss...-cell-vehicles-work/
www.ineos.com/inch-magazine/articles/iss...-cell-vehicles-work/
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12 Jul 2020 11:19 #224887
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No-one likes hydrogen more than the fuel companies. It's a commodity they understand, very easy to sell just like petrol. For the customer it makes sense, you just fill up and go with very similar performance to petrol. Unfortunately governments don't like it as production of hydrogen is polluting. Emissions are becoming far more government lead and not industry lead, there's the problem.
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12 Jul 2020 12:51 - 12 Jul 2020 13:25 #224892
by Foxtrot
Replied by Foxtrot on topic 660cc Jimny emissions
I don't think it will be long before the environmental damage caused by mining for colbalt and the unethical way they use child Labour to extract it will become an unavoidable issue as the demand for lithium batteries increases. It's going to be interesting times as we move away from fosil fuel..
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