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Parkwood Nr. Leeds
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Whoopsy I think!
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13 Jul 2019 21:35 #211000
by Fossie
I have added the pictures to show my dilemma .
In the pictures you will see the near side wheel is nearly 2" out of mudguard ....the offside 2" inside mudguard ...
The torsion bar is 2" apart!!
This happened on a bend on an A road in Staffordshire. Interesting handling for a few hundred metres!
There doesn't seem to be any other damage, other than the radius arms? Slightly twisted in the bushes ...to be expected.
On out ward journey I smelled hypoiod oil and sure enough the front off side wheel was covered on the inside....these 2 incidents aren't connected ( no pun intended) are they?
More importantly how easy to sort ?
Cheers in advance.
Whoopsy I think! was created by Fossie
I have added the pictures to show my dilemma .
In the pictures you will see the near side wheel is nearly 2" out of mudguard ....the offside 2" inside mudguard ...
The torsion bar is 2" apart!!
This happened on a bend on an A road in Staffordshire. Interesting handling for a few hundred metres!
There doesn't seem to be any other damage, other than the radius arms? Slightly twisted in the bushes ...to be expected.
On out ward journey I smelled hypoiod oil and sure enough the front off side wheel was covered on the inside....these 2 incidents aren't connected ( no pun intended) are they?
More importantly how easy to sort ?
Cheers in advance.
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13 Jul 2019 22:27 #211004
by JimnyBob
Replied by JimnyBob on topic Whoopsy I think!
Didn't realise these were hollow inside.
Pretty easy to sort, you could even get some heavy duty panhard bars.
Wouldn't of thought the oil on front is connected, will probably be knackered kingpin bearings which have caused the axle oil seal to fail.
Pretty easy to sort, you could even get some heavy duty panhard bars.
Wouldn't of thought the oil on front is connected, will probably be knackered kingpin bearings which have caused the axle oil seal to fail.
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13 Jul 2019 22:42 #211006
by Fossie
Replied by Fossie on topic Whoopsy I think!
Cheers for reply , I was hoping a new bar and King pins complete would sort this .....the reason still evades me however..
Also a wow moment to realise that the axle is held in place by a piece of tubing! Obviously it works usually and this is a maintainance issue:dry:
Also a wow moment to realise that the axle is held in place by a piece of tubing! Obviously it works usually and this is a maintainance issue:dry:
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14 Jul 2019 05:46 #211009
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Whoopsy I think!
That's an interesting failure mode for the panhard to just shear in the middle. More usual for it to kill its bushes or rip a mount bracket off one end. And that just happened driving down the road? Seems a very clean and straight break for the middle of a tube. The panhard is usually either under tension or compression under normal circumstances and being free to rotate at both ends it doesn't experience a bending force of any magnitude One would usually expect a tube to exhibit an area of narrowing or waisting as the material yields before failing and the actual failure point would be more ragged from a tension overload. And a compression overload would cause bending and buckling. A relatively thick walled tube like that is actually really quite tough and the amount of movement it is likely to experience shouldn't really be able to do that kind of damage in isolation. Very odd.
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14 Jul 2019 10:21 #211024
by Fossie
Replied by Fossie on topic Whoopsy I think!
Dreadnought my thoughts exactly. Further examination today in the daylight will not reveal much, I can only surmise that the bushes are not free enough, due to ingress of dirt / corrosion in the bolts. ( In my defence I have only had this one 4 months!.......poor defence however!)
Though as stated I would have thought the rod would bend first and it shows no signs of stress around the break.
I will order heavy duty rods and bushes , a used item will be cheaper but pre fatigued .
I will inspect my daughters motor at the weekend for similar .
Still stumped however.
Though as stated I would have thought the rod would bend first and it shows no signs of stress around the break.
I will order heavy duty rods and bushes , a used item will be cheaper but pre fatigued .
I will inspect my daughters motor at the weekend for similar .
Still stumped however.
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16 Jul 2019 20:50 #211145
by kirkynut
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Replied by kirkynut on topic Whoopsy I think!
Panhard rods have been known t bend off road, so a little accident will have the same effect.
Shearing in half is a little less expected!
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Shearing in half is a little less expected!
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27 Jul 2019 22:12 #211563
by Fossie
Replied by Fossie on topic Whoopsy I think!
So today the Jimny and its new panhard bar became acquainted , in the rain with a hint of err more rain.. When we joined the ends of the old one back together there was a bend in it. Must've been there for a while.
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28 Jul 2019 04:21 #211564
by Lambert
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So it could have been a preexisting stressed area that has work hardened or fatigued and failed over time rather than necessarily failing in one event? Hmmm still quite odd. Not that it matters now you have fixed it.
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