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Scratch head (Gen 4 Owner manual)

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03 May 2019 07:59 #207178 by Andy2640

Lambert wrote: Mine didn't make it to year 4. Since then I have had avm manual ones. Bit more effort but way more reliable and versatile. They allow me to run on the road in 4x2lo which is great for towing and manoeuvring trailers. It is possible to do this electronically on the gen3 as well as mechanically so I suspect that it is a modification in development for the gen4.



Ohh, that dont sound too promising. Even with regular servicing they can still go awry? Damn it. I'll be keeping an eye out for that mod then.

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03 May 2019 08:09 #207181 by Lambert
On the gen3 there are two failure modes. The solenoid packs that control the vacuum to the hubs can get full of debris and need cleaning if you are lucky or die a miserable death if you are not. And on older cars the vacuum pipes on the axle corrode and leak. They are replaceable but most people will bypass them and either lock the hubs permanently or fit manual ones like I have. Either way not a big deal to sort.

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03 May 2019 08:23 #207182 by Bob1050
The section on jacking the Jimny up using a trolley jack (e.g. to change a wheel) is a tad ambiguous. Read the words and look at the diagram - can you put the jack under the axle/diff and lift or not? How should you do it - bet your average garage or tyre depot operative won't be following the Manual..

As for the guidance on changing between 2 & 4 WD and LR and HR - downright confusing.

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03 May 2019 08:35 #207184 by Lambert
On th gen3 radius and trailing arms there's little nub things cast into the bottom edges about half way along. They act as locating pins to stop the pad of the jack from slipping. I only put stands under the actual axle and as close to the spring seats as I can.

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03 May 2019 08:57 #207186 by AlexK
The manual was perhaps trying to say don't shift into 4H while depressing the accelerator. If you release the gas pedal it will reduce the load in the drivetrain making it easier for the transfer case to engage the front axle.
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03 May 2019 09:10 - 03 May 2019 09:11 #207188 by Andy2640

Bob1050 wrote: The section on jacking the Jimny up using a trolley jack (e.g. to change a wheel) is a tad ambiguous. Read the words and look at the diagram - can you put the jack under the axle/diff and lift or not? How should you do it - bet your average garage or tyre depot operative won't be following the Manual..

As for the guidance on changing between 2 & 4 WD and LR and HR - downright confusing.


Thats a good point.

My tyre fitter, jacked it up from around the axle, couldnt see exactly where, as i was sneeky peeking them from a distance. Needless to say i was worried.

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03 May 2019 21:59 #207240 by Bob1050
I'd be interested in other forum members thoughts on the wording and diagram in the Manual for lifting the new Jimny. I have re-read it and it's ambiguous (to me) to say the least.

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04 May 2019 07:53 #207261 by stiffsteve204me

Bob1050 wrote: I'd be interested in other forum members thoughts on the wording and diagram in the Manual for lifting the new Jimny. I have re-read it and it's ambiguous (to me) to say the least.


Sect. 7-1. How do you find it ambiguous, Bill?

Dependent on what type of jack is used, it seems clear enough to me, although I have not had a look at the supplied jack, nor the jacking points for its use, to see if there are any issues.
The jacking points for when a trolley jack is used are clearly there.

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04 May 2019 20:46 #207308 by Bob1050
Steve - you a real gent posting those pics - suddenly it all becomes clearer. Appreciate you taking the time to take/share those images. Now I will feel more confident when the time comes to rotate all my wheels and ensure tyre wear evens out with the 4WD system.
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04 May 2019 21:01 #207313 by mlines
That "jacking point" looks dual purpose as they state in some publicity material that they have strengthened the axles and that new bracket spans one of the joints that can crack

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04 May 2019 21:20 #207318 by stiffsteve204me

Bob1050 wrote: Steve - you a real gent posting those pics - suddenly it all becomes clearer. Appreciate you taking the time to take/share those images. Now I will feel more confident when the time comes to rotate all my wheels and ensure tyre wear evens out with the 4WD system.




No bother, Bob, I assure you. ;)


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04 May 2019 23:53 #207332 by cyberdriver
"Do not shift the transfer lever without depressing the accelerator pedal"

I would de-press the accelerator and depress the clutch ;)

the bigjimny wiki also says depress when it probably means de-press.

www.bigjimny.com/mediawiki/index.php/DO%...%27T%27s_with_Jimnys

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