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03 Jan 2019 12:42 #199944 by me101
Hi, had plenty if info off this site since buying Little Jim just over a year ago, so decided to try and join in. However, looking to replace the springs, but there seems to be different lengths? Seem to range from say 275 - 292 for the rear for example. Would this matter? Some say LHD - but what would the issue be on a RHD? Cheers

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03 Jan 2019 14:11 #199947 by Max Headroom
Greetings From the Cotswold Hills and welcome to the forums!

Yep lot of folk are a bit confused by this including myself to some degree. Be aware many of the springs found in places like eBay may be for lifting the car higher on its suspension.

As far as I understand it, the standard REAR Jimny springs for RHD models are different to compensate for the "lean" created by the weight of the driver and the fuel tank which is situated on the same side. LHD models are not subject to different rear springs but I am ready to stand corrected if this is not the case.

The front Left & Right springs are the same as each other, and are longer than the rears.
You may find some info by looking for springs in the JIMNY ONLINE SHOP


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03 Jan 2019 14:13 #199948 by Lambert
Replied by Lambert on topic Standard spring confusion
On a uk car the rear springs are different height to accommodate the Jimny lean allegedly caused by the steering brakes and fuel tank all being on the same side of the car. Left hand drive vehicles have the steering and brakes on the opposite side to the fuel tank and are more even. Front springs are longer than rear ones but not handed.

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03 Jan 2019 14:40 #199949 by sniper
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Our heavily cambered roads have a fair impact too.....

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03 Jan 2019 17:39 #199960 by Busta
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sniper wrote: Our heavily cambered roads have a fair impact too.....

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If that were the case wouldn't they lean the other way?

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04 Jan 2019 08:08 #199993 by sniper
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Exactly what my point is, I fitted equal length springs on each axle, most of my driving is on smaller A and B roads, there is no perceptible lean.
I fitted standard springs though, maybe lifted springs are a touch softer.....

In a car park and perfectly flat, you could argue that most 4x4s that are not family cars will lean slightly with the drivers weight, because they are softer sprung?

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04 Jan 2019 12:34 #200000 by mlines
Replied by mlines on topic Standard spring confusion
In the UK, on a STANDARD Jimny, the rear springs are different to each other to compensate for the weight distribution. When you look at a pair of standard rear springs the difference is not really visible (in terms of length), its more of a spring stiffness that has been compensated for.

Some aftermarket (lifted) spring suppliers provide a longer spring on the front drivers side to compensate instead of correcting the rear.

So if you are purchasing new springs for the rear of the standard jimny, make sure you get UK spec. springs which have the compensation included (So genuine Suzuki or Blueprint are two I know about)

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04 Jan 2019 18:08 #200017 by Riccy
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I wonder if the springs are the same for VVT and non VVT?

The only vehicles ive seen with the lean problems are non VVT and its even worse on the earlier G13 engined ones. This may be down to the variations in springs fitted (and driver weight :laugh: )

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04 Jan 2019 18:34 - 04 Jan 2019 18:34 #200020 by Max Headroom

Riccy wrote: The only vehicles ive seen with the lean problems are non VVT and its even worse on the earlier G13 engined ones. This may be down to the variations in springs fitted (and driver weight :laugh: )


In my case this only usually happens immediately after Christmas :unsure: ;)


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05 Jan 2019 12:24 #200046 by me101
Replied by me101 on topic Standard spring confusion
Thanks for the replies guys. They were from 'buycarparts.co.uk' but didn't say anything about left or right side springs (for the compensation)? Will have another look! Mine is a 2007, and does have a lean. Cheers

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05 Jan 2019 12:31 #200048 by Max Headroom
Which way is the lean? And is that lean with you sitting in the drivers seat in the car, or outside looking at it?


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05 Jan 2019 12:51 #200049 by me101
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Outside looking at it - leans to the O/S. Don't know if just me, but seems to be sitting on the drivers rear rather than just to one side.

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