×
BigJimnyMeet (North) 2024 (12 Jan 2024)


BigJimnyMeet 2024

14th July 2024
Parkwood Nr. Leeds

Booking now open - EARLY BIRD DISCOUNTED PRICE

Click HERE for details

× An area for non Suzuki Jimny related chat. Keep it clean etc. as this is a public forum with young readers.

Cafe racer question

  • Lambert
  • Lambert's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
    Registered
  • The quickest Jimny in Harrogate...(that I own)
More
18 Dec 2017 20:55 #187611 by Lambert
Cafe racer question was created by Lambert
Another of my odd questions. I have no affinity with bikes, they disturb me, however I am quite fascinated by the ethos of the cafe racing idea, nothing it doesn't need to make it work, enough go to get without being obsessed with horsepower top trumps, cornering ability enough to make a rabbit dizzy, essentially built for speed not comfort, you know, a cafe racer. Anyway, I have been looking for the correct term for the car equivalent of the above and haven't been able to put a name to it? What is the car equivalent of a cafe racing bike correctly called? And yes, in my case it's Ermintrude but more generally?

Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
19 Dec 2017 15:25 #187620 by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Cafe racer question
The car equivalent would be 'fast-road' spec surely? Most creature comforts removed, light engine work, mildly uprated suspension? Something like my 106 Rallye. An everyday budget hatchback with not much in the way of an interior, 790kg kerb weight and 135hp to drag it around. A simple recipe for fun!
The following user(s) said Thank You: Lambert

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • TomDK
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
19 Dec 2017 16:23 - 19 Dec 2017 16:34 #187624 by TomDK
Replied by TomDK on topic Cafe racer question
hmm. more like around 100 bhp :)

Though, cafe racers have some kind of coolness around them. So I'm thinking more like a Lotus/caterham Super 7 :)

Or perhaps a bmw z3 or Mazda MX3. Both fun and relatively cheap cars..
Last edit: 19 Dec 2017 16:34 by TomDK.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Lambert
  • Lambert's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
    Registered
  • The quickest Jimny in Harrogate...(that I own)
More
19 Dec 2017 18:31 #187629 by Lambert
Replied by Lambert on topic Cafe racer question

Busta wrote: The car equivalent would be 'fast-road' spec surely? Most creature comforts removed, light engine work, mildly uprated suspension? Something like my 106 Rallye. An everyday budget hatchback with not much in the way of an interior, 790kg kerb weight and 135hp to drag it around. A simple recipe for fun!


Hmm I kinda know what you mean but I always thought of fast road as being like a v6 mondeo or 3.0 bmw s you know not a super saloon but that sort of size?

Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Lambert
  • Lambert's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
    Registered
  • The quickest Jimny in Harrogate...(that I own)
More
19 Dec 2017 18:48 #187630 by Lambert
Replied by Lambert on topic Cafe racer question

TomDK wrote: hmm. more like around 100 bhp :)

Though, cafe racers have some kind of coolness around them. So I'm thinking more like a Lotus/caterham Super 7 :)

Or perhaps a bmw z3 or Mazda MX3. Both fun and relatively cheap cars..



Are they not sports cars.though? Not to say they're not cool, they are very but are they cafe racer types? I always took cafe racer as something you ended up with not what you start from?

Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • TomDK
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
19 Dec 2017 19:22 #187631 by TomDK
Replied by TomDK on topic Cafe racer question
yeah I guess you have a point :)

Hmm.. what about a now you mention the Mondeo v6 and something to start from.

The perhaps a ford Cougar 2.5 V6 then swap the 2.5 for a 3.0? A fairly common upgrade for the Cougar :)

I know the Cougar is a bit of a hairdressers car, but actually drives pretty good..

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • 1066Boy
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
19 Dec 2017 19:26 #187632 by 1066Boy
Replied by 1066Boy on topic Cafe racer question
Striped out Honda Civic Type R. Enough said. :)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • rappey
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
19 Dec 2017 19:37 #187633 by rappey
Replied by rappey on topic Cafe racer question
A café racer (/ˈkæf reɪsər/ KAF-ray-sər or more commonly /ˈkæfeɪˌreɪsər/ KA-fei-RAY-sər) is a lightweight, lightly powered motorcycle optimized for speed and handling rather than comfort – and for quick rides over shohttps://www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum?view=topic&layout=reply&catid=15&id=62877&mesid=187631rt distances.[1][2] With bodywork and control layout recalling early-1960s Grand Prix road racing motorcycles, café racers are noted for their visual minimalism, featuring low-mounted handlebars, prominent seat cowling and elongated fuel tank – and frequently knee-grips indented in the fuel tank.[3]

Lightly powered, theres your bmw z3...lol By all accounts an appaling car.
A cateram or lotus 7 is at least heralding back the the 60,s. Same cant be said for the other cars..
Not really sure you can use the term cafe racer for a car though?
Stripped out cars have been done to death though.. How about a diesel in a light weight car? That instant power and huge torque is very appealing as diesels become more powerfull than their petrol counterparts..
Personally i want one that new tesla coupe, 0-100 mph in 4.1 secs.. if it comes out in 2020 ! but like the g wagon, well out of my price range

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
19 Dec 2017 20:10 #187637 by jackonlyjack
Replied by jackonlyjack on topic Cafe racer question

1066Boy wrote: Striped out Honda Civic Type R. Enough said. :)


:) zed cars type R mini conversion :evil:

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Lambert
  • Lambert's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
    Registered
  • The quickest Jimny in Harrogate...(that I own)
More
19 Dec 2017 20:12 #187639 by Lambert
Replied by Lambert on topic Cafe racer question
I take on board what you say about aping the 1960s and that is something I can't really do with a Jimny but much of the rest can be done the minimalist interior, the light weight and light power are almost factory installed, the handling is against all probability there hiding behind cheap factory dampers so getting the car right is the easy part. The difficulty I am having is what to call it as a style once I'm done, cos cafe racer is a bike term and of the genre of modified cars while there are many to choose from I don't know which would best suit?

Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
19 Dec 2017 20:15 #187640 by jackonlyjack
The following user(s) said Thank You: Lambert

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Lambert
  • Lambert's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
    Registered
  • The quickest Jimny in Harrogate...(that I own)
More
19 Dec 2017 20:17 #187641 by Lambert
Replied by Lambert on topic Cafe racer question

1066Boy wrote: Striped out Honda Civic Type R. Enough said. :)


Especially the new one with the triple exhaust, I will own one of those before I go. But that would be a ricer. And achingly cool.

Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.142 seconds
Powered by Kunena Forum

I hope you enjoy using this forum. Please consider making a donation towards the upkeep of this forum website.

We use cookies to give you the best online experience. Please let us know if you agree to all of these cookies. Accepting the Cookies also accepts the Disclaimers for the website.