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body lift or suspension lift?

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11 Dec 2012 22:04 #55369 by dobson
body lift or suspension lift? was created by dobson
Hi am new to off roading and i want to no the advantages/disadvantages off a spring life and a body lift.
thanks for any advice you can give

matt

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11 Dec 2012 22:30 #55372 by mudman
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it all depeneds how your going to use it...... thay will both give you extra body roll when cornering if its a road posser your building then go body lift as it gives the look of a lift alowing bigger tyres to be fitted while mantining some road maners. if your planing to go off road then go with a spring lift then you can fit bigger tyres but you will get more flex meaning your wheels stay in contact with the floor longer so you get more traction in the sticky stuff

hope this helps

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12 Dec 2012 16:05 #55390 by kirkynut
Any modification to a car leads to a compromise or a problem that causes something else to need to be modified and Offroad mods are no different.

I bought mine with a suspension lift already done but no castor correction and only recently replaced it with castor correction - I would not go back - so if you chose a suspension lift you have to consider the fact the car will have more body roll, a suspension lift is more expensive and even more so with castor correction.

If you choose a body lift, there is a sensible limit to how far you can go which is not as high as a suspension lift and I think you would then end up wanting a suspension lift anyway - so why not start with a suspension lift and then if you want more do the body lift after. Body lifts mean you often have to extend the gear and transfer box levers and sometimes the steering shaft from the steering wheel to the steering box.

So as I say above - I would go with a suspension lift first and if you want more then go for the body lift.

If you decide later you want a roll cage - have the body lift done first as you'll not be able to do it very easily after.

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12 Dec 2012 16:22 #55394 by TomDK
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kirkynut wrote: Any modification to a car leads to a compromise or a problem that causes something else to need to be modified and Offroad mods are no different.

I bought mine with a suspension lift already done but no castor correction and only recently replaced it with castor correction - I would not go back - so if you chose a suspension lift you have to consider the fact the car will have more body roll, a suspension lift is more expensive and even more so with castor correction.

If you choose a body lift, there is a sensible limit to how far you can go which is not as high as a suspension lift and I think you would then end up wanting a suspension lift anyway - so why not start with a suspension lift and then if you want more do the body lift after. Body lifts mean you often have to extend the gear and transfer box levers and sometimes the steering shaft from the steering wheel to the steering box.

So as I say above - I would go with a suspension lift first and if you want more then go for the body lift.

If you decide later you want a roll cage - have the body lift done first as you'll not be able to do it very easily after.

Kirkynut


That is, If he decides for an external scaffold :laugh: B)

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13 Dec 2012 05:13 #55421 by kirkynut

TomDK wrote:

kirkynut wrote: Any modification to a car leads to a compromise or a problem that causes something else to need to be modified and Offroad mods are no different.

I bought mine with a suspension lift already done but no castor correction and only recently replaced it with castor correction - I would not go back - so if you chose a suspension lift you have to consider the fact the car will have more body roll, a suspension lift is more expensive and even more so with castor correction.

If you choose a body lift, there is a sensible limit to how far you can go which is not as high as a suspension lift and I think you would then end up wanting a suspension lift anyway - so why not start with a suspension lift and then if you want more do the body lift after. Body lifts mean you often have to extend the gear and transfer box levers and sometimes the steering shaft from the steering wheel to the steering box.

So as I say above - I would go with a suspension lift first and if you want more then go for the body lift.

If you decide later you want a roll cage - have the body lift done first as you'll not be able to do it very easily after.

Kirkynut


That is, If he decides for an external scaffold :laugh: B)


Or an internal cage if it were to be made how I would want it, sandwiching the floor and going down to the chassis, the chassis being the strong frame and back bone of a Jimny.

I dare say most internal cages just weld or bolt to the floor but why not use the natural strength the chassis provides if you sandwich plate the shell to make it linked to it.

An external cage doesn't have to and shouldn't look like scaffolding if it follows the shape of the car and sits nice and tight to it.

Kirkynut

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13 Dec 2012 15:31 #55438 by TomDK
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kirkynut wrote:

TomDK wrote:

kirkynut wrote: Any modification to a car leads to a compromise or a problem that causes something else to need to be modified and Offroad mods are no different.

I bought mine with a suspension lift already done but no castor correction and only recently replaced it with castor correction - I would not go back - so if you chose a suspension lift you have to consider the fact the car will have more body roll, a suspension lift is more expensive and even more so with castor correction.

If you choose a body lift, there is a sensible limit to how far you can go which is not as high as a suspension lift and I think you would then end up wanting a suspension lift anyway - so why not start with a suspension lift and then if you want more do the body lift after. Body lifts mean you often have to extend the gear and transfer box levers and sometimes the steering shaft from the steering wheel to the steering box.

So as I say above - I would go with a suspension lift first and if you want more then go for the body lift.

If you decide later you want a roll cage - have the body lift done first as you'll not be able to do it very easily after.

Kirkynut


That is, If he decides for an external scaffold :laugh: B)


Or an internal cage if it were to be made how I would want it, sandwiching the floor and going down to the chassis, the chassis being the strong frame and back bone of a Jimny.

I dare say most internal cages just weld or bolt to the floor but why not use the natural strength the chassis provides if you sandwich plate the shell to make it linked to it.

An external cage doesn't have to and shouldn't look like scaffolding if it follows the shape of the car and sits nice and tight to it.

Kirkynut


Agreed... And you external cage looks like a tight fit around the body. But most external cages here on this forum looks like they were meant for a Defender, not very pretty.

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