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This section on other websites has led to arguments and contention. People are posting pictures of their pride and joy and therefore CONSTRUCTIVE comments only please!
Dave's "S200KYS" Jimny 'laner Build...
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10 Nov 2015 15:55 - 10 Nov 2015 16:02 #155900
by X8GGY
Replied by X8GGY on topic Dave's (Bits4Vits) Jimny 'laner Build...
Here's how the panhard rod drop bracket fits -
And together with the drop pitman arm -
Nice and parallel, and closer to original spec... if we translate the panhard page (which is only avaliable in Italian) we get -
"Description available only in Italian ... This attachment is one of the most important that you can install on your vehicle. When you mount a kit upward, your front panhard rod changes its position, bringing failure of directionality, although minimum This already happens with a rise of 30mm. Over the kit is installed and comfortable with excursion, the more you feel this failure. On a Jimny with original order, the Panhard bar front is in a position such as to ensure a lateral displacement of the front deck very few millimeters, this to allow a precise directionality even in situations of full travel at high speeds. The ideal location of a Panhard rod front is always, in running order and with the means resting on the ground, that of the parent. On the side frame is always anchored 25-40mm higher than the bridge side, according to the models. If we restore or we get closer to these values, we will have a precise and linear Jimny with Kit upwards of 5 ". This accessory is installed simply by bolting on all 'original welded, you will not have to cut it to change any detail of your frame, but the bridge will be slightly shifted 5mm or if you want to kill, not used to a particular edge of the stabilizer bar on the deck. This particular does not help the stabilizer bar is only contour, to move you can simply use a hammer or it will cut with the hose. If you install this accessory, without a rebound bumper additional 75mm on the front deck, will be dismantled the anti-roll bar, otherwise interfere with the new media. His structure is extremely sturdy and pleasant aesthetic impact. The article in question it is suitable for Kit upwards by 3 "up to a maximum of 5" lateral view .."
I hope it all 'translates' to a right-hand-drive vehicle! :dry:
And together with the drop pitman arm -
Nice and parallel, and closer to original spec... if we translate the panhard page (which is only avaliable in Italian) we get -
"Description available only in Italian ... This attachment is one of the most important that you can install on your vehicle. When you mount a kit upward, your front panhard rod changes its position, bringing failure of directionality, although minimum This already happens with a rise of 30mm. Over the kit is installed and comfortable with excursion, the more you feel this failure. On a Jimny with original order, the Panhard bar front is in a position such as to ensure a lateral displacement of the front deck very few millimeters, this to allow a precise directionality even in situations of full travel at high speeds. The ideal location of a Panhard rod front is always, in running order and with the means resting on the ground, that of the parent. On the side frame is always anchored 25-40mm higher than the bridge side, according to the models. If we restore or we get closer to these values, we will have a precise and linear Jimny with Kit upwards of 5 ". This accessory is installed simply by bolting on all 'original welded, you will not have to cut it to change any detail of your frame, but the bridge will be slightly shifted 5mm or if you want to kill, not used to a particular edge of the stabilizer bar on the deck. This particular does not help the stabilizer bar is only contour, to move you can simply use a hammer or it will cut with the hose. If you install this accessory, without a rebound bumper additional 75mm on the front deck, will be dismantled the anti-roll bar, otherwise interfere with the new media. His structure is extremely sturdy and pleasant aesthetic impact. The article in question it is suitable for Kit upwards by 3 "up to a maximum of 5" lateral view .."
I hope it all 'translates' to a right-hand-drive vehicle! :dry:
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10 Nov 2015 16:08 #155902
by Rockwatt
Replied by Rockwatt on topic Dave's (Bits4Vits) Jimny 'laner Build...
Hope it fits cos the panard mount is not square to the chassis at the from.
I personally would sooner go hi steer on the axles and lift the panard on the axle as well
I personally would sooner go hi steer on the axles and lift the panard on the axle as well
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10 Nov 2015 17:04 #155914
by X8GGY
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The printed instructions are a PDF in Italian but the photos show cutting something with a slitting disk, so they've emailed me a copy so I can translate them...
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10 Nov 2015 18:03 #155920
by TomDK
Don't think it's bump steer you experience. Don't make much sense with the panhard rod and steering rod being parallel. Also according to Wikipedia Bump steer does not occur on live axles. But perhaps it's roll steer??
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_steer
Replied by TomDK on topic Dave's (Bits4Vits) Jimny 'laner Build...
Jimny-Dave wrote: The printed instructions are a PDF in Italian but the photos show cutting something with a slitting disk, so they've emailed me a copy so I can translate them...
Don't think it's bump steer you experience. Don't make much sense with the panhard rod and steering rod being parallel. Also according to Wikipedia Bump steer does not occur on live axles. But perhaps it's roll steer??
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_steer
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11 Nov 2015 20:19 #156031
by Rhinoman
If you lift or lower the front axle with the steering lock off then the steering wheel will rotate - that's bump steer. Lifted SJs suffer from it as well.
Some Suzukis and a bunch of motorcycles.
Replied by Rhinoman on topic Dave's (Bits4Vits) Jimny 'laner Build...
TomDK wrote: Don't think it's bump steer you experience. Don't make much sense with the panhard rod and steering rod being parallel. Also according to Wikipedia Bump steer does not occur on live axles. But perhaps it's roll steer??
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_steer
If you lift or lower the front axle with the steering lock off then the steering wheel will rotate - that's bump steer. Lifted SJs suffer from it as well.
Some Suzukis and a bunch of motorcycles.
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11 Nov 2015 21:44 #156042
by TomDK
I've never experienced it on my own Jimny.
It makes good sense that it happens on an SJ as there's no panhard rod to control lateral movement.
Replied by TomDK on topic Dave's (Bits4Vits) Jimny 'laner Build...
Rhinoman wrote:
TomDK wrote: Don't think it's bump steer you experience. Don't make much sense with the panhard rod and steering rod being parallel. Also according to Wikipedia Bump steer does not occur on live axles. But perhaps it's roll steer??
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_steer
If you lift or lower the front axle with the steering lock off then the steering wheel will rotate - that's bump steer. Lifted SJs suffer from it as well.
I've never experienced it on my own Jimny.
It makes good sense that it happens on an SJ as there's no panhard rod to control lateral movement.
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