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Removing the pedal block
- Gerula
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24 Oct 2015 18:59 #154344
by Gerula
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Hello everyone,
During the last weeks my Jimny started to have more and more shifting problems, up to the point when it became impossible to shift gears without stopping the motor. I adjusted once the clutch cable but this only fixed the problem for a few days.
Upon careful inspection I discovered that the metal plate that holds the clutch cable's "shirt" to the pedal block is broken (pretty much the same problem described here www.bigjimny.com/forum/7-jimny-technical...ith-pedal-block.html )
It looks like the fix is to remove the pedal block and to either replace it or have it professionally welded. I would rather save money and remove the pedal block myself, is this a straightforward operation or there are any "traps" (so to speak) that I should be aware of? Any help will be greatly apreciated
During the last weeks my Jimny started to have more and more shifting problems, up to the point when it became impossible to shift gears without stopping the motor. I adjusted once the clutch cable but this only fixed the problem for a few days.
Upon careful inspection I discovered that the metal plate that holds the clutch cable's "shirt" to the pedal block is broken (pretty much the same problem described here www.bigjimny.com/forum/7-jimny-technical...ith-pedal-block.html )
It looks like the fix is to remove the pedal block and to either replace it or have it professionally welded. I would rather save money and remove the pedal block myself, is this a straightforward operation or there are any "traps" (so to speak) that I should be aware of? Any help will be greatly apreciated
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26 Oct 2015 15:31 #154465
by Gerula
Replied by Gerula on topic Removing the pedal block
No one has some experience about this operation? From what I dug up using google it would require removal of the steering column but someone managed to do it by just "lowering" the column.
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30 Oct 2015 12:29 #154885
by Gerula
Replied by Gerula on topic Removing the pedal block
From what I gathered it seems to be a rather common problem. No one has any input about the removal of the pedal block?
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30 Oct 2015 12:44 #154886
by fozzie
2012 Jimny Black. Totally standard (except for rear seat removal mod).
Replied by fozzie on topic Removing the pedal block
Sorry mate, it's not that everyone is ignoring you. It's more that we are all as much in the dark as you, and waiting for someone to enlighten us.
Like you say, if it's a common problem, somebody has done it before.
Good luck with your search and repair.
Paul
Like you say, if it's a common problem, somebody has done it before.
Good luck with your search and repair.
Paul
2012 Jimny Black. Totally standard (except for rear seat removal mod).
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30 Oct 2015 13:29 #154890
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If you want some general advice look at a lupo forum very common issue on them there might be some help there.
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31 Oct 2015 20:01 #154984
by Decklandpt
Replied by Decklandpt on topic Removing the pedal block
i remember a guy at the portuguese forum that had a similar problem, but it wasnt so much the cable attachment point that failed, it was the pedal box mounts that came off.
in any case, looking at the parts on the tread you posted, and given that the jimny is not drive by wire, i would guess it's just a matter disconecting the cables and taking it of..
in any case, looking at the parts on the tread you posted, and given that the jimny is not drive by wire, i would guess it's just a matter disconecting the cables and taking it of..
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01 Nov 2015 01:05 #155025
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i had the same problem, but my mechanic welded the metal plate
but mine wasn't all cut off, so i was easy to weld
but mine wasn't all cut off, so i was easy to weld
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01 Nov 2015 08:27 #155030
by j999pre
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Replied by j999pre on topic Removing the pedal block
It's easy
Unhook the clutch cable
Pull the spilt pin on the top of the brake pedal and pull out the linch pin
Disconnect any wiring that is in the way Inc brake light switch
Drop the column then unbolt the pedal box
Unhook the clutch cable
Pull the spilt pin on the top of the brake pedal and pull out the linch pin
Disconnect any wiring that is in the way Inc brake light switch
Drop the column then unbolt the pedal box
Gold Jimny the best colour (sold)
Big red Jimny 32" tyres, arbs, cage 5:1 transfer etc. (Sold)
Grey pick up Jimny
Turbo m13a, arbs, floating rear shafts, disc conversion rear, vented front conversion. 245 70 16. Winch, 3" lift, 4:16 trans hd shafts and CVS
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05 Nov 2015 15:03 #155416
by Gerula
Replied by Gerula on topic Removing the pedal block
Thanks for the replies guys. I'll let you know how it goes
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27 Nov 2015 22:17 #157360
by Gerula
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OK, time to share my own finds.
1. It is indeed possible to remove the pedal block without removing the steering column, at least on the earlier models (mine is a 98). It's a cramped job and after clearing the brake lever you need to rotate the pedal block (with the pedals towards the driver's door when working on RIGHT hand drive cars) in order to clear the lowered steering column. Not sure in which direction you'll have to rotate it when working on left hand drive cars but you'll definitely have to rotate it.
2. There are four nuts around the brake and two more up under the dashboard. Pay attention as the four nuts also serve to fix the brake booster on the shell. I didn't saw this mentioned anywhere and it's pretty important, as you could end up damaging the brake fluid lines if you end up pushing on these bolts while wiggling the pedal block out.
This being said, the whole thing is not that bad if you pay attention to what you're doing. The only horrible part is the position, I ended up working on a side and somewhat twisted upwards as the other obvious option (head down, bottom up on the seat's rest) required the removal of the steering.
Total cost was next to noting, just had a guy at a local shop do MIG welding on both sides of the pedal block. I did myself the rest, maybe 1 hour for removal and 2 for installation.
1. It is indeed possible to remove the pedal block without removing the steering column, at least on the earlier models (mine is a 98). It's a cramped job and after clearing the brake lever you need to rotate the pedal block (with the pedals towards the driver's door when working on RIGHT hand drive cars) in order to clear the lowered steering column. Not sure in which direction you'll have to rotate it when working on left hand drive cars but you'll definitely have to rotate it.
2. There are four nuts around the brake and two more up under the dashboard. Pay attention as the four nuts also serve to fix the brake booster on the shell. I didn't saw this mentioned anywhere and it's pretty important, as you could end up damaging the brake fluid lines if you end up pushing on these bolts while wiggling the pedal block out.
This being said, the whole thing is not that bad if you pay attention to what you're doing. The only horrible part is the position, I ended up working on a side and somewhat twisted upwards as the other obvious option (head down, bottom up on the seat's rest) required the removal of the steering.
Total cost was next to noting, just had a guy at a local shop do MIG welding on both sides of the pedal block. I did myself the rest, maybe 1 hour for removal and 2 for installation.
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27 Nov 2015 22:44 #157366
by Funky Diver
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I'm guessing it would be easier by taking the drivers seat out?
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27 Nov 2015 23:30 #157373
by Gerula
Replied by Gerula on topic Removing the pedal block
I wasn't bothered much by the seat, as during most of the time my head was stuck far under the steering
Maybe removing the seat would work in order to allow sitting on your back on the bottom of the car with the feet on the back seat. That's for someone else to try and report back with the result
Maybe removing the seat would work in order to allow sitting on your back on the bottom of the car with the feet on the back seat. That's for someone else to try and report back with the result
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