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2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
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19 Dec 2017 21:52 #187646
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Replied by auchenblae on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
Our 2016 Jimny with traction control and in high 4WD and with the standard M&S tyres was able to go up a steep ice covered track to our house this week with no issues as did our Impreza with traction control and winter tyres.
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27 Dec 2017 16:18 #187798
by furo
2004 Jimny Mode: General Grabber AT3s (215/75/R15); Trailmaster 2" Lift; Jimnybits Snorkel; Jimnybits Front and Rear Recovery Points; Suntop Roof Rack; AVM Manual Hubs; Stainless Steel Exhaust System (SOLD)
Replied by furo on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
Just thought I'd bump this thread to ask if anyone has any positive experience with the ESC on-road? When I was first getting used to the Jimny I had a couple of hairy experiences going round wet corners and I had another one today on black ice despite being very cautious. Has anyone with a newer Jimny felt it kick in and help in these situations? Seems like it could be a brilliant feature if it works well.
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27 Dec 2017 17:03 #187801
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Replied by auchenblae on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
On our Nov 2016 SZ3 we have had the tyre pressure warning light on one occasion but no problem at all with the stability control. It was very icy on the track last week but we were in 4WD and no stability control light coming on.
On the other hand in our 2008 MX5 the light flashes on when we go from our unmade track to the road or when we are driving up the track and we drive over a rough patch.
On the other hand in our 2008 MX5 the light flashes on when we go from our unmade track to the road or when we are driving up the track and we drive over a rough patch.
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10 Jan 2018 09:35 #188226
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Hi.
I got my brand new Jim just in December 17, and I love it! It has traction control that works pretty well offroad. It takes 1-2 seconds to get it engaged so when a wheel begins to slip I have to keep on acceletating and in a second or two magically we start moving again. It works in 4L mode even though with ESP OFF sign on the panel. Good illustration is here:
I got my brand new Jim just in December 17, and I love it! It has traction control that works pretty well offroad. It takes 1-2 seconds to get it engaged so when a wheel begins to slip I have to keep on acceletating and in a second or two magically we start moving again. It works in 4L mode even though with ESP OFF sign on the panel. Good illustration is here:
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27 Jan 2018 13:43 #188874
by Bosanek
Replied by Bosanek on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
serg988,
thank you very much for your contribution.
This is an excellent demonstration video.
So it appears that we have been wrong here about Jimny's new ESC/ESP system.
If my newest conclusions are correct, that system works as a typical stability control system in 2WD-H and 4WD-H modes.
However, in 4WD-L mode, it automatically morphs into a traction control system like in many other newer 4WD vehicles (or like in the Land Rover Discovery 2 for example), which is active even if the ESC button is in the OFF position.
So, whenever an ESC/ESP equipped Jimny is in 4WD-L transmission mode, that system will automatically assist the driver as a traction control assistance, like in a typical cross-axle situation.
So, the good thing is that it is acutally usable in off-road conditions (but in 4WD-L mode only). The bad thing is that you can not turn it off in 4WD-L mode.
Am I correct on all this now?
thank you very much for your contribution.
This is an excellent demonstration video.
So it appears that we have been wrong here about Jimny's new ESC/ESP system.
If my newest conclusions are correct, that system works as a typical stability control system in 2WD-H and 4WD-H modes.
However, in 4WD-L mode, it automatically morphs into a traction control system like in many other newer 4WD vehicles (or like in the Land Rover Discovery 2 for example), which is active even if the ESC button is in the OFF position.
So, whenever an ESC/ESP equipped Jimny is in 4WD-L transmission mode, that system will automatically assist the driver as a traction control assistance, like in a typical cross-axle situation.
So, the good thing is that it is acutally usable in off-road conditions (but in 4WD-L mode only). The bad thing is that you can not turn it off in 4WD-L mode.
Am I correct on all this now?
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27 Jan 2018 18:55 - 27 Jan 2018 18:56 #188879
by Bosanek
Replied by Bosanek on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
I have just created a brand new wiki article which deals exclusively with Jimny's ESC and TC systems.
The wiki article is here.
I incorporated all the current findings into that article.
I welcome the feedback from the others on this matter.
The wiki article is here.
I incorporated all the current findings into that article.
I welcome the feedback from the others on this matter.
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06 Feb 2020 19:14 #218120
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Replied by Kingbob on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
I take the fuse out it totally desables the esp. esp is dangerous
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06 Feb 2020 20:08 #218125
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Replied by Lambert on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
With a reasonable degree of certainty I would suggest that your insurance company will take an extremely dim view of the esp being disabled in the event of a claim. Suzuki wouldn't have fitted it if it wasn't fit for purpose.
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06 Feb 2020 20:14 - 06 Feb 2020 20:32 #218126
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Insurance doesn't cover you on a private pay and play sight's also the esp is dangerous especially pulling out of a slippy junctions one wheel starts to spin and it cuts the engine power and puts the breaks on the wheel that's spinning leaving you pretty much stopped half way over a road with cars driving at you I would rather have 1 wheel spin and be moveing than it putting the brakes on the wheel that's spinning slowing it down to a crwal if i put my foot down hard on the Accelerator I want to go not stop.
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07 Feb 2020 05:47 - 07 Feb 2020 05:47 #218128
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
Then I would suggest that if you are having such problems with traction on road then you might want to consider the condition of your tyres and if they are good then consider your driving style in relation to the type of tyres you have. I have a 2016 automatic with esp and a 2011 manual without esp and unless it is icey or snowing I can't provoke either of them to break traction while driving like a normal person would drive a Jimny, yeah if I drive like the Stig in a rally car either will dance but the automatic tells me it's not happy way before it gets out of control, but then that's not how you drive on the road. Either way it's your car and your insurance and your choice and if you want to disable safety features that is on you.
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07 Feb 2020 10:43 - 07 Feb 2020 10:43 #218136
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Replied by Kingbob on topic 2015 Jimny ESP/Traction control
Nothing wrong with my tyers its the poor state of the roads where I am the roads are more shiny than my bald head evan oaps wheel spin out of some of the streets around hear
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