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26 Nov 2013 16:30 #93315 by jonesyba420
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so im thinking about my suspension, at the moment i am currently standard with no ARB.

basically when my dad got his defender it had a 2inch lift but he decided it wasnt needed for what he uses it for so put it back on standard length springs but kept the longer shocks and brake lines. in theory keeping the advantages of more shock travel ie more droop etc but without the hassle of a lift, ruined caster excessive wear on joints etc.

im thinking of doing the same thing to my jimny as i currently have no intention of fitting bigger tyres but wouldnt mind improving the jimny's capabilities and ride offroad.

so i would fit: +2" shocks either the rough country n2.0 or procomp es1000's (views and opinions on which shocks are better are definately welcome), extended brake lines as i have no ARB and rear shock relocators (if i fit these do i then need to extend the front shocks as the rears will be longer?) and maybe some spring clamps incase of spring dislocation.

has anyone tried a setup like this?what are peoples views?would i have problems regarding upwards travel or is that limited by the spring and bump stops??probably the most important question IS IT WORTH DOING?

im not planning on doing it tomorrow just something ive been thinking about and i cant really think of any disadvantages.

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26 Nov 2013 17:39 #93320 by Lambert
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I think you have hit the nail on the head with regard to compression. Some dampers have enough capacity to do what you want but not all. Check very carefully your chosen damper will not bottom out.

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26 Nov 2013 17:56 #93321 by jonesyba420
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How do I find this information out?if the new longer shocks acted as the bump stop rather than the actual bump stop could I extend the bump stops to compensate?would this then mean I have less upward travel or would it be the same as with stock shocks?obviously the longer shocks will allow the wheel to droop down further which is good just not sure how it will affect upwards movement on the opposite wheel.is there any issue with the inside edge of the tyre hitting the inner side of the arch when the wheel tucks up in there as the more one side droops the more the opposite wheel will lean over.not sure if im right in all this so all help is appreciated.

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26 Nov 2013 18:30 #93324 by TomDK
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The Rough Country N2.0 shocks are far better for offroading, as they are much harder shocks.

Some users on this forum believe that shocks for offroad needs to be as soft as possible, which is as wrong as it can be. Try go just a little fast over bumps and such, and your shocks will easily bottom out. You'll want shocks that are hard enough to take a beating, without bottoming out all the time. Even more so, if you have a winch fitted.

Fitting longer shocks it self will limit up-travel and extend down-travel. So you usually fit longer/harder springs that will match the shocks. At least on the suspension-kits most users can afford.

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26 Nov 2013 18:40 #93327 by Lambert
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The suppliers should be able to tell you. As for rubbing being new to jimny I wouldn't know. With land rover you have to be careful to secure the spring and have relocation cones. Jimny may be different.

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26 Nov 2013 18:43 #93328 by Dave cc
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Im running ES9000 pin pin on both my trucks soft works just fine for me :)

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26 Nov 2013 19:04 #93329 by jonesyba420
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I thought the n2's had various stages of dampning as I understood it?does this mean they get harder the harder the load you put on them ie over large gravel they would be quite soft but on bigger hits they would be harder?

think the jimny is a pretty hard ride anyway probably to hard for comfort offroad you feel every stone.

arnt the Es9000 for heavy trucks? With Winches etc.

I would be getting them from here so maybe martin can offer some assistance.

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26 Nov 2013 19:06 #93330 by JuanGuillie
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TomDK wrote: The Rough Country N2.0 shocks are far better for offroading, as they are much harder shocks.

Some users on this forum believe that shocks for offroad needs to be as soft as possible, which is as wrong as it can be. Try go just a little fast over bumps and such, and your shocks will easily bottom out. You'll want shocks that are hard enough to take a beating, without bottoming out all the time. Even more so, if you have a winch fitted.

Fitting longer shocks it self will limit up-travel and extend down-travel. So you usually fit longer/harder springs that will match the shocks. At least on the suspension-kits most users can afford.



+1 :)

My first set of shocks and springs were OldManEmu and the blue MAD springs, this was about 1 inch lift.
For me it was too soft and certainly at "higher" speed on mudtracks, if you did feel it going sideway's it was almost too late.
I did change them after 1 year to the complete Trailmaster Stage II "Sport" 2 inch kit (shocks, springs, corrector bushes and steering dampener).
This "Sport" configuration is stiffer then the "Comfort" set, it did cost me some money but i feel save with this set-up!
Still feeling very happy with them, even with my rear shock relocaters i still have enough space for the shock to go completely in and out without "bottoming", even at higher speed !
Having a winch in the front then put the "Diesel" Trailmaster Stage II Sport set.

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26 Nov 2013 19:23 #93334 by TomDK
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Dave cc wrote: Im running ES9000 pin pin on both my trucks soft works just fine for me :)


ES9000 are probably some of the hardest shocks available to the Jimny in this price range. They harder than RC N2.0.

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26 Nov 2013 19:25 #93335 by TomDK
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RC N2.0 shocks have the same damping no matter how much they're compressed.


Shocks with various stages of daming are very expensive.
Like Fox or King Triple Bypass shocks. They easily cost £6-800 each.

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26 Nov 2013 22:17 #93358 by Dave cc
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ES 9000 are the softest big pin pin shocks available hence why i use them

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26 Nov 2013 22:26 #93361 by GuardianAngel
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I maybe missing the point, but...

If your not planning to fit bigger tyres when why do you want to lift it by 2"? Not wishing to teach you suck eggs, but your still going to have the lowest point of the Jimny at the same height unless bigger tyres are fitted, i.e. the diff case.

But, as I said, I might be missing something.... :whistle:

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