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Headlight upgrade?
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08 Jul 2019 21:48 #210778
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Hi everyone.
I'm a new Jimny owner (2001 auto)
I've just been out for the first time at night and wasn't impressed with the headlights.
I've seen the posts about polishing the lenses (mine are a bit cloudy) but can anyone recommend uprated bulbs.
Mine seem to give a yellowish tinge especially on dipped beam.
Thanks, John.
I'm a new Jimny owner (2001 auto)
I've just been out for the first time at night and wasn't impressed with the headlights.
I've seen the posts about polishing the lenses (mine are a bit cloudy) but can anyone recommend uprated bulbs.
Mine seem to give a yellowish tinge especially on dipped beam.
Thanks, John.
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09 Jul 2019 04:12 #210779
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Welcome to the forum. Lots of people rave on about the Osram Nightbreaker , though I have never used them as I prefer the Ring 190%. The other alternative is less legal and that is an led conversion but there's a restriction that leds can't be used in a lamp not designed for them.
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09 Jul 2019 07:05 #210787
by Scimike
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Hi and welcome.
Comparing to modern cars which tend to have independent bulbs (or LED) for HI / LO beam, they are never going to complete with this design using a single combined bulb, it's an old design.
That said a lense polish and quality bulbs is going to make the best of them. Never used night breaker myself, tried Halfords own +150% and while they are brighter on HI, LO remains less noticeable and slightly yellow.
I did consider changing my front fogs to combined DRL / Fog, using the DRL to assist LO beam, but never tried this.
May do it one day.
Mike
Comparing to modern cars which tend to have independent bulbs (or LED) for HI / LO beam, they are never going to complete with this design using a single combined bulb, it's an old design.
That said a lense polish and quality bulbs is going to make the best of them. Never used night breaker myself, tried Halfords own +150% and while they are brighter on HI, LO remains less noticeable and slightly yellow.
I did consider changing my front fogs to combined DRL / Fog, using the DRL to assist LO beam, but never tried this.
May do it one day.
Mike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
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09 Jul 2019 08:13 #210790
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Thanks for the replies gentlemen.
Looking at the the Eurocarparts website I see it's a standard H4 bulb so various makes to choose from.
I'll have a look round.
John
Looking at the the Eurocarparts website I see it's a standard H4 bulb so various makes to choose from.
I'll have a look round.
John
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09 Jul 2019 11:47 #210792
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IF IT AINT BROKE, KEEP FIXING IT UNTIL IT IS
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I took on the Osram Night Breakers and have been impressed - it is a big improvement over standard bulbs. Prior to fitting them I was often putting the front fogs on to light the ditch. With the Night Breakers I don't need to
They came from Eurocarparts I think
They came from Eurocarparts I think
IF IT AINT BROKE, KEEP FIXING IT UNTIL IT IS
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09 Jul 2019 13:44 #210799
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Had my osrams for a few years now, great improvement got them from auto bulbs direct.
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12 Jul 2019 22:09 - 12 Jul 2019 22:11 #210974
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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I too like the nightbreakers. big improvement from the old ones.
LED for a H4 lamp is a bad solution as the geometry of the light will rarely be correct. Not sure if it is at all possible.
But the 150% and even more, wouldn't those burn the reflectors?
I would be careful to recommend them, just swapped the headlamps on my VW T5 because previous owner had used wrong bulbs. it was a pain of a job btw...
LED for a H4 lamp is a bad solution as the geometry of the light will rarely be correct. Not sure if it is at all possible.
But the 150% and even more, wouldn't those burn the reflectors?
I would be careful to recommend them, just swapped the headlamps on my VW T5 because previous owner had used wrong bulbs. it was a pain of a job btw...
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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12 Jul 2019 22:26 #210976
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Thanks guys for all your comments.
Before I saw all the replies I rightly or wrongly ordered some Neolux H4 +50%
Thought it was worth risking from carpartsforless (£10).
Will let you know how it turns out when I get round to fitting them.
Cheers, John.
Before I saw all the replies I rightly or wrongly ordered some Neolux H4 +50%
Thought it was worth risking from carpartsforless (£10).
Will let you know how it turns out when I get round to fitting them.
Cheers, John.
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13 Jul 2019 06:43 #210984
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The 190%bulbs I have are the same idea as the Nightbreaker, the filament winding is the same resistance as a normal 55/60w unit but the mixture of gases in the bulb is different. Instead of halogen they use things like xeon in a proprietary blend that gives a whiter light.
What burns lamps and wires is using higher wattage bulbs like a 100/150w. They are still halogen but have a much higher resistance filament winding and run an order of magnitude hotter than the normal bulb so can easily melt plastic reflectors and draw too much current for the standard wiring
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yakuza wrote: I too like the nightbreakers. big improvement from the old ones.
LED for a H4 lamp is a bad solution as the geometry of the light will rarely be correct. Not sure if it is at all possible.
But the 150% and even more, wouldn't those burn the reflectors?
I would be careful to recommend them, just swapped the headlamps on my VW T5 because previous owner had used wrong bulbs. it was a pain of a job btw...
The 190%bulbs I have are the same idea as the Nightbreaker, the filament winding is the same resistance as a normal 55/60w unit but the mixture of gases in the bulb is different. Instead of halogen they use things like xeon in a proprietary blend that gives a whiter light.
What burns lamps and wires is using higher wattage bulbs like a 100/150w. They are still halogen but have a much higher resistance filament winding and run an order of magnitude hotter than the normal bulb so can easily melt plastic reflectors and draw too much current for the standard wiring
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13 Jul 2019 22:18 #211001
by yakuza
Yes I know. Double the watt and you have double the temp. Loss/heat is almost constant for same kind of bulb. But I thought different gases could give higher temperature as well. .
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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Lambert wrote:
yakuza wrote: I too like the nightbreakers. big improvement from the old ones.
LED for a H4 lamp is a bad solution as the geometry of the light will rarely be correct. Not sure if it is at all possible.
But the 150% and even more, wouldn't those burn the reflectors?
I would be careful to recommend them, just swapped the headlamps on my VW T5 because previous owner had used wrong bulbs. it was a pain of a job btw...
The 190%bulbs I have are the same idea as the Nightbreaker, the filament winding is the same resistance as a normal 55/60w unit but the mixture of gases in the bulb is different. Instead of halogen they use things like xeon in a proprietary blend that gives a whiter light.
What burns lamps and wires is using higher wattage bulbs like a 100/150w. They are still halogen but have a much higher resistance filament winding and run an order of magnitude hotter than the normal bulb so can easily melt plastic reflectors and draw too much current for the standard wiring
Yes I know. Double the watt and you have double the temp. Loss/heat is almost constant for same kind of bulb. But I thought different gases could give higher temperature as well. .
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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14 Jul 2019 06:07 #211011
by Lambert
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Not entirely sure if the different gases are hotter or not but but I haven't experienced any detriment in using them over a significant period of time in various vehicles.
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14 Jul 2019 10:14 #211023
by RainerK
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I think if you have a higher wattage then the resistance is lower, „closer“ to a short circuit.
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