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Re:Brake pipe and union size

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01 Jul 2019 09:56 #210472 by paradox1001
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Hi guys I’ve my mot due soon and I suspect at least an advisory on my rigid brake lines.

What size is the pipe and unions and what sort of flare is used?

Apart from sized unions is there anything else I should be aware of that may trip me up when it comes to replacing them?

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01 Jul 2019 10:24 #210474 by Lambert
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I used 3/16th pipe and 11mm fittings as I have a stock of such together with a basic flare tool. I understand that there is a special shape flare for most Japanese cars but as I used copper it just conformed as it was tightened. Works fine.

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01 Jul 2019 10:41 #210475 by paradox1001
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Lambert wrote: I used 3/16th pipe and 11mm fittings as I have a stock of such together with a basic flare tool. I understand that there is a special shape flare for most Japanese cars but as I used copper it just conformed as it was tightened. Works fine.


Is that m11 x1 fittings lambert and are they short or long?

I’ve 3/16th copper pipe on the shelf but only m10x1 short fittings.

I take it it’s a single flare not a double?

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01 Jul 2019 11:58 #210478 by Lambert
I just used what I had as it happened to fit. It's all old stuff from my land rover days including the horseshoe flare tool. Nothing was bought specifically for the Jimny m

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01 Jul 2019 11:58 #210479 by paradox1001
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jackonlyjack wrote: M10x1 short is what i used double flare 3/16th copper


Any chance you could stick a picture up of the type of fitting you used and a pic of the flare please?

I’ve just done the lines on my camper van
Being German it uses a bubble flare and I’m unsure if the fittings and flaring tool I have are suitable

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01 Jul 2019 12:16 #210480 by paradox1001
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These are the fittings and die I have

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01 Jul 2019 12:54 #210481 by jackonlyjack
Wrong fittings them are
Should only have around 1 mm of metal after the threads
Tool looks like it will do double flare
Look on YouTube

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01 Jul 2019 13:07 #210482 by paradox1001
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jackonlyjack wrote: Wrong fittings them are
Should only have around 1 mm of metal after the threads
Tool looks like it will do double flare
Look on YouTube


So your saying I need full thread nuts?

The ones I have have a flat top for the bubble flare
For the double flare do I need nuts like these with an internal taper?

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01 Jul 2019 13:56 #210483 by paradox1001
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In this vid he used the same tool as mine to make a double flare
Is that the correct way for what the Jimmy needs?

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01 Jul 2019 16:22 #210488 by jackonlyjack

paradox1001 wrote:

jackonlyjack wrote: Wrong fittings them are
Should only have around 1 mm of metal after the threads
Tool looks like it will do double flare
Look on YouTube


So your saying I need full thread nuts?

The ones I have have a flat top for the bubble flare
For the double flare do I need nuts like these with an internal taper?

Yes these unions
And yes double flare same as video

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01 Jul 2019 17:29 #210491 by paradox1001
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jackonlyjack wrote:

paradox1001 wrote:

jackonlyjack wrote: Wrong fittings them are
Should only have around 1 mm of metal after the threads
Tool looks like it will do double flare
Look on YouTube


So your saying I need full thread nuts?

The ones I have have a flat top for the bubble flare
For the double flare do I need nuts like these with an internal taper?

Yes these unions
And yes double flare same as video


Cheers jack muchly appreciated.

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