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TOPIC: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs?

Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 2 days ago #42591

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Just after some thoughts of what to do.

I've recently bought a rock lobster :cheer:

My jimny has a 2" lift and 215 75 15 tyres at present.

I want to up the tyre size to 30 or 31.

Whats the best/most economic way of gaining the required height?

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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 2 days ago #42605

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cheapest is spring spacers and body lift (+ maybe caster correction bushes)

we've got 3" lift + spring spacers +massive arch trimming to get 31"s on

so 2"lift + 1 1/2" spring spacers and 2" body lift should do the same for a lot less money than a 4 1/2" spring lift
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 2 days ago #42608

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Cheers for that.

I'm torn between springs or a body lift I think. Kap do some 4" springs would my shocks be long enough?

Body lift sounds easiest though.

Decisions decisions

Its already got caster correction arms on.
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 2 days ago #42611

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body lift is an easy job. and keeps your COG lower (ie its just the weight of the body gone up 2") if you lift another 2" on the springs the weight of the body, chassis, gearbox, everything apart from the axles goes up. plus when the spring is fully compressed it would still hit the arch.
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 2 days ago #42616

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The cheapest way is to fit a bodylift kit.

But its not the best solution. With b/l you get your mass center higher. So it will more possible to roll over.

The best thing is the lower hight with the biggest tire size you can.

Also the b/l doesn't provide you any longer travel of the axles.

In my opinion wait a little while, get some more money and go for a new suspension set up.

A new set of 3'' suspension lift with spring spacers of 1'', caster kit, panar brackets and brake lines wont

cost you more than 650 uk pounds.

A b/l kit will cost you about 150 uk pounds but it can't be compared with a full suspension set. ;)
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 1 day ago #42671

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Hmm.

one post says bodylift to keep COG lower the other says spring lift for the same reason?

Ideally I'd like to add to my current set up of 2" spring lift and caster corrected arms.

I suppose I could sell the 2" get a 3" and then add the body lift. Widening the track to allow for the increase in Centre of gravity?
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 1 day ago #42673

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If you can afford it go for spring lift , im not a fan of body lifts all they do is give you wheel clearence.
4" springs procomp shocks Kap cage and rock sliders Kap winch bumper Home made rear bumper 12000lb winch Dual batteries and split charger Shorty snorkel ORA front arms superpro bushes Stock rear arms superpro cc bushes Kap panhards 32mm wheel spacer GV wheels 265 76 16 dakars (32") Rocklobster . .
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 1 day ago #42697

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With body lift you make your mass center get higher and makes your car dangerous, because you seperate the cabin from the chassis.

Raise some more money and go for a suspension lift.

I have 31'' with 4'' suspension lift and some trim arches.
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 1 day ago #42702

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IMHO body lift can give you extra space for new tyres without altering your suspension geometry

will be fitting mine in a few

also, you will be only elevating the weight of the body and in suspension lifts the sum of all weight (body plus chassis plus suspension plus motor) goes up

it's good to have more suspension travel, so your car will not lean very much and keep wheels on the ground

but is also important to have space for the suspension you already have work or travel

mine with just spring spacers and shock extenders have already "increased" travel due to more space i guess. Don't know, but if flex more, can't explain

suspension lifts up than 2" can be very complicated and alter steering geometry, making the car dangerous on road also... so i'm going for 2" suspension plus 2" body lift for now...

best way is to cut arches, for who have the guts...

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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 18 hours ago #42746

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Mine with 4'' is my all day car. No steering issues. Also 6 times a year i go on trip back to my home town

which is 750km away.

Also every day and weekends i go fishing, another 250 km.

Make a google search and take a look to other sites and see what they say about b/l.

Also in a case of an accident the cabin may move from its place.
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 17 hours ago #42753

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can't really say why the cabin cannot move also without the b/l then,,,

all i'd say is that both got pros and cons and should be done properly

things you read on the web also tend to look unilateral

cheers
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Re: Body lift spring spacers or longer springs? 11 months 15 hours ago #42759

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Thanks for all the good advice.

I thought this might make for a good debate.

I'll let you know which route I go down
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