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04 Jul 2019 20:51 #210629 by Noddy299
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Hello, new here.

I am looking at buying a Jimny soon. It will be used as a fishing vehicle around the UK. I am looking at buying a roof tent potentially. Just for ease instead of having a tent in the back, does anyone have any experience with them? Are they any good? How much do they affect the ride?

I won't be doing any really serious off roading but it will involve driving tracks/fields that a normal car wouldn't manage.

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04 Jul 2019 21:30 #210635 by mlines
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What you need is the..........Jimny FishingMaster - special edition!!




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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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04 Jul 2019 21:37 #210637 by Noddy299
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Wow, I think the fishing master may be a bit beyond my needs for a couple of rods a box of flies and somewhere to sleep Haha.

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05 Jul 2019 04:08 #210645 by Lambert
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Welcome to the forum. There's a few examples of Jimny with rtt doing the rounds especially the gen4 cars. I too have been looking at them as a response for a quick weekend away. From what I can gather the hard clamshell type seem to be better both in terms of aero and protection from low foliage. They are not cheap though. Also if you are buying a gen3 car factor in replacement of the original roof rails as they are plastic and not very strong. Also you are going to be overweight on the roof(nominal on the gen3 35kg) probably by double and while it is possible with a suitable bolted on carrier to physically carry the extra safely, you will need to inform your insurance provider that you have modified the roof system and are using a rtt.

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05 Jul 2019 17:52 #210675 by Noddy299
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Lambert,

I have seen the hard shells, they seem a good idea. Like you say they are pricey but I dont mind spending a bit more on what will hopefully be weekend accomodation for a few years to come.
The insurance is cheap enough anyways so it will certainly be worthwhile informing them of any changes.

Is there anyone out there with experience of the roof tents of any form?

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05 Jul 2019 17:58 #210676 by Gadget
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I love the idea of a rooftent, but the Jimny isn't really the car for it. Even the lightest one will be more than double the allowed roof loading.
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05 Jul 2019 18:25 #210678 by Keithy
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I think the 35kg refers to the "cheese" that the roof bars are made from.....I carried an 8X4 sheet of ply on those....then noticed what the mountings were made of.....it appears that having Jesus on your side works.

Moved to steel immediately!

Had 250kg on the roof.....interesting handling!

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05 Jul 2019 19:38 - 05 Jul 2019 19:39 #210680 by Gadget
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The allowed load is the same for the Gen4 with steel gutter mounts. It's not the static load, it's the dynamic load, having all that weight up high on such a narrow car is going to seriously compromise the handling. I wouldn't fancy the chances of getting an insurance payout if you had an accident with a rooftent on the car.
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05 Jul 2019 20:31 #210688 by yakuza
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As many says the weight is an issue.. That and the fact that very few use their roof top tents for very long so most of them end up sold second hand after little use wich makes for good value.
Problems with them other than too much load in a bad place is that it isn't very practical to climb up there to sleep.

I have been looking at something like this:
Durable Single/Double Person Tent Folding Off the Ground Camping Bed Tent Cot UK
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Link is just the first one i found on ebay as an example.

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06 Jul 2019 02:42 #210692 by Bill Portland
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There's no such restriction on the roof load of the gen4, only on the Suzuki own brand roof bars. Not mentioned at all in the manual. And even roofbox.com who are normally very careful to see pecify roof load limits (they do for all accessories for the earlier gens) don't mention limits other than the roof bar manufacturer's limits (around 70kg).

I carry a 41kg kayak on 10kg of bars/mounts and have no issues although I don't kayak in strong winds so haven't carried the kayak in windy conditions.

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06 Jul 2019 05:55 #210693 by Lambert
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Any load placed securely on the roof doesn't immediately make a Jimny any more unstable than any other live axle 4x4. What makes them feel unstable is trying to drive them without any consideration of the roof load. It's driver inexperience. It's exactly the same with trailers, the vast amount of people who obviously don't tow regularly and set off like they aren't, only to get into difficulties from going too fast or or not accounting for windage or not knowing how to place a load etc etc. It's all perfectly safe and easy if conducted with a little decorum. As I and others have mentioned though the plastic feet on the gen3 rails are going to have to go which constitutes a modification that the insurance have to be notified of. They may not want to insure, that is up to them but with suitable mounting and a bit of sense from the driver it is no more risky than anything else.

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06 Jul 2019 07:44 #210699 by Gadget
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Bill Portland wrote: There's no such restriction on the roof load of the gen4, only on the Suzuki own brand roof bars. Not mentioned at all in the manual. And even roofbox.com who are normally very careful to see pecify roof load limits (they do for all accessories for the earlier gens) don't mention limits other than the roof bar manufacturer's limits (around 70kg).

I carry a 41kg kayak on 10kg of bars/mounts and have no issues although I don't kayak in strong winds so haven't carried the kayak in windy conditions.


There was a big argument on the Aus Facebook group about this. The blurb for the Suzuki roofbars says 30kg, however there are emails from Suzuki Australia that confirm it's 35kg.

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