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26 Mar 2019 15:23 - 26 Mar 2019 15:26 #205099 by jimnyfox

Guy 2 wrote:

cyberdriver wrote: That's 100 load rating then (the 97 refers to dual axle). Bummer because it would be great if someone made 215 ATs in 96 or 97.



Just for info: In the UK, 4x4 Tyres has K02s in 97 load rating

www.4x4tyres.co.uk/215-75-15-b-f-goodric...97168?specs=20,57,65 ,


This is where I bought mine from and as it turns out, they are not 97 load rated. They are 100/97 as mentioned above.

Just to add, I took part in the 'Kielder Safari' over the weekend, a nice mix of gravel, mud and rocky tracks. They were absolutely excellent. Including on the 4 hour motorway drive up there! So far so good and I would be happy to recommend them to others considering them.
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26 Mar 2019 16:03 #205100 by Guy 2
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Thanks jimnyfox - it's amazing that these websites cannot even get their own information right!

Looking forward to hearing more about the tyres in due course.

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27 Mar 2019 12:23 #205133 by Guy 2
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Another Cooper video on tread pattern that may be of use:



Hope I'm not 're-inventing the wheel' here (pun intended)!
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01 Apr 2019 16:22 #205371 by Guy 2
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I keep sitting down, having a coffee, and going over yet another set of tyre reviews - I know, I should get a life!

Anyway, I came across the relatively recent-to-market (2017) Yokohama Geolandar MT G003 - and have come to the conclusion that if I were to consider a mud terrain (and that's a big 'if'), then these are really 'on the money' for me i.e. they are probably the most road-friendly of aggressive MTs whilst being super strong.

They are available in the UK as 215/75R15 100Q (restricted 99 mph), at a comparable price to the BFG KO2. Not only that, but they weigh 14.7 kg per tyre v 15.0kg for the BFGs, so there is nothing in it for unsprung weight. (I know you will hate that weight whatever the tyre, Lambert!)

All the same, I thought it might be an option for members of the forum looking for an aggressive tyre "to scare the neighbours". (Looking at them, I certainly think they would do that!)

The following is the best of the reviews - giving an honest update after 20,000 miles (albeit for what is obviously a larger version of the tyre).

www.bing.com/videos/search?q=yokohama+mt...6DEFAA7946&FORM=VIRE

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02 Apr 2019 09:21 #205396 by Daniel30
I have had General Grabber x3 Mt on mine for a while now used on A roads, B roads, motorway and I can't fault them, great road manners, only slightly more road noise than the Grabber AT great in the mud, I went to a pay and play the other weekend and had every weather under the sun. snow, rain, hail and on the way back on the motorway we had sleet so heavy the traffic was down to 30mph all in all I will be replacing these with another set when the time comes but looking at them this will be a few years yet ;)
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02 Apr 2019 10:58 #205397 by Guy 2
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I think the x3 is another great option. Thanks Daniel 30.

Love to hear a further update in due course.

NB Being on the waiting list - having the opportunity to hear other people's experience is about the best bit!
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02 Apr 2019 11:47 #205398 by G-imny
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This site: https://tyres.buycarparts.co.uk/yokohama-4968814938260-0y751509q
shows the Geolanders as being summer tyres. Is this true? The BFG KO2's have the mud and snow marking so just curious as to whether the Geolanders are similar.

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02 Apr 2019 12:57 #205400 by Guy 2
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The G003s don't have the 3 Peak mark - but then I don't know that any MTs do. Those reviewers who have used them in snow up to 10-12 inches seem to rate them. Also view the biting edges as good on ice. I think it's more a case of the Regulators not being geared up for mud tyres and/or not catching up with the latest tyre developments? For the UK I, personally, would think it worth the risk.

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02 Apr 2019 13:02 #205401 by Lambert
All mud and most all terrain tyres are summer or occasionally all seasons as they don't have the full winter low temperatures compound rubber to get winter status. Doesn't mean that they don't work well in typical temperate winter conditions just that there are other tyres that work even better.

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02 Apr 2019 13:10 #205402 by Guy 2
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Thinking about it, the manufacturer would have to apply for the 3 Peak mark and I guess they 'would if they could'. Thanks Lambert.

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02 Apr 2019 18:22 #205424 by Gadget
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My Yokohama G015 A/T have the 3peak mark - which is at least subject to some official scrutiny, unlike the M+S marking which isn't regulated at all. Nowhere near as effective as a true winter tyre, but having a 3peak mark does mean they offer some benefit in snow over standard summer tyres.

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03 Apr 2019 08:04 #205451 by sniper
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AT's and MT's will have the edge in deep snow, winter rated road tyres will be better on compacted snow.

Tyre choice is always a compromise, even when budget is not an issue. Big knobbly mud tyres will work their way through snow like no winter tyre could, but put that same tyre on compacted snow or ice and they can be laughably ineffective.

My KO2's hold snow in the treads and this helps with traction over icy patches,


Trying to drive road tyres in 6" of snow wasn't a good idea for these guys, the truck got stuck trying to go around the car.

I drove up did a three point turn, bussed up and took them a couple of miles to safety.

Drivers have as big an impact as tyres, picking the right line is just as important and knowing your limits.....

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