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28 Jun 2016 05:00 - 28 Jun 2016 05:21 #169239 by Lambert
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Does anyone know definitely what the unbraked tow limit is for a Jimny? The law states half the kerb weight or 750kg whichever is less so essentially 550kg. My non UK specific owners book says 350kg unbraked and 450kg braked unless local regulations differ but then the vin says I can tow 1300kg max. This information is repeated by the internet regularly ie 350 1300 but the Internet is known to be wrong for example with my cherokee some sites list it's capacity as 2800kg even when it has a plate saying 2688, hell even the v5 has it wrong there. Help?

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28 Jun 2016 06:51 #169243 by supergaz
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1300kg is maximum braked towing weight for a jimny.
750kg is the maximum weight for a unbraked trailer towed by something that has the capacity to do this, defiantly not a jimny.
Definatly do not tow more than half the kerbweight of the jimny unbraked.
Luckily my cherokee KJ can legally tow 750kg unbraked and 3500kg braked.

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28 Jun 2016 07:46 - 28 Jun 2016 07:55 #169248 by gilburton
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Definately 350 unbraked 1300 braked but I wouldn't go anywhere near 1300 not because of instability more because of the small engine.
That is Suzuki UK figures and as you say the handbook says about the local regulations which applies to the UK.
Here are the weights in the sales brochure. This is the newest Jimny but they haven't changed since the Jimny came out.
www.suzuki.co.uk/cars/cars/new/jimny/jimny/tech-spec

If you have large tyres and haven't compensated on the transfer box it won't help.

What are you wanting to tow?? I tow a 750 kg caravan.

I started off high and worked my way down ever since :-)
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28 Jun 2016 09:49 #169256 by Lambert
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I already have various braked trailer for sheep moving but was wondering about getting an unbraked little one however if the limit is 350kg not half the kerb weight then I would effectively only be able to transport no more than 2 ewes at a time and be under weight which is totally impractical so I will stick to braked trailer for now. It would have been nice to have a choice between the Jimny and the Jeep with a shiny new tool but hey ho.

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28 Jun 2016 10:20 #169257 by gilburton
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Yeah I think the main problem with the Jimny is the short wheelbase/track.
I have towed a couple of motorcycles on an unbraked bike trailer and it felt a bit pushed when braking.
Agricultural trailers tend to be heavily built so weigh quite a bit empty lol

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28 Jun 2016 12:22 #169258 by Busta
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350kg unbraked which is very limiting! But it's worth sticking to as an un-braked trailer increases stopping distances massively. I've never had a problem towing 1.3tons behind mine with a braked trailer though.

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28 Jun 2016 13:19 #169261 by mlines
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Limits? What limits :)


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29 Jun 2016 03:57 #169308 by Lambert
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Awesome. Cheers for the info guys.

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30 Jun 2016 15:30 #169345 by Lambert
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Allegedly according to my main dealers the 350 is supposedly superceded by the half kerb weight as set by construction and use 1986 as amended apparently. I am not convinced but legislation does normally trump recommendation. Oh and an email to vosa via dvsa meets with 'not our department' yet it would be a vosa road side check that would find you. Too much gray.

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30 Jun 2016 15:35 #169346 by gilburton
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In the event of an accident it would more likely your insurance that might be the deciding factor as they would probably go by the importers figures.
How much does 4 sheep weigh on average, as a matter of interest,and of course the trailer??

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30 Jun 2016 16:14 #169348 by Lambert
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Good point re insurance. Will look into it.

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30 Jun 2016 16:48 #169350 by Lambert
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Ultimately at the moment this is just research having not bought anything yet but it is definitely better to check it out and decide in advance than to bluster in regardless and find out the hard way.

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